fishtm2001
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If there's 200 there, that's on them. Everybody who wanted out is out.
Biden directly responsible for bloody Kabul Thursday !!!
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Joe has overseen a military and government that have managed, since the announcement of America’s withdrawal, one of the most extraordinary logistical feats in their recent history.
Top general acknowledges US "did not get everybody out that we wanted to get out"
The last US military planes have left Afghanistan, marking the end of the United States' longest war. Follow here for the latest news updates.
"CENTCOM Commander Gen. Kenneth "Frank" McKenzie said Monday that no American citizens made it on the final five evacuation flights leaving Kabul, meaning that Americans who may have wished to leave Afghanistan have been left on the ground.
“We maintained the ability to bring them in up until immediately before departure, but we were not able to bring any Americans out. That activity ended probably about 12 hours before our exit, although we continued the outreach and would've been prepared to bring them on until the very last minute, but none of them made it to the airport and were able to be accommodated,” McKenzie said.
McKenzie said there were no evacuees left at the airport when the final flights left.
A senior State Department official said earlier Monday the Department believed there were fewer than 250 American citizens who may wish to leave Afghanistan."
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No excuse for dawdling.Top general acknowledges US "did not get everybody out that we wanted to get out"
The last US military planes have left Afghanistan, marking the end of the United States' longest war. Follow here for the latest news updates.www.cnn.com
"CENTCOM Commander Gen. Kenneth "Frank" McKenzie said Monday that no American citizens made it on the final five evacuation flights leaving Kabul, meaning that Americans who may have wished to leave Afghanistan have been left on the ground.
“We maintained the ability to bring them in up until immediately before departure, but we were not able to bring any Americans out. That activity ended probably about 12 hours before our exit, although we continued the outreach and would've been prepared to bring them on until the very last minute, but none of them made it to the airport and were able to be accommodated,” McKenzie said.
McKenzie said there were no evacuees left at the airport when the final flights left.
A senior State Department official said earlier Monday the Department believed there were fewer than 250 American citizens who may wish to leave Afghanistan."
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By the time the last American plane lifts off from Hamid Karzai International Airport on August 31, the total number of Americans and Afghan allies extricated from the country may exceed 120,000. Historical feat!Top general acknowledges US "did not get everybody out that we wanted to get out"
The last US military planes have left Afghanistan, marking the end of the United States' longest war. Follow here for the latest news updates."CENTCOM Commander Gen. Kenneth "Frank" McKenzie said Monday that no American citizens made it on the final five evacuation flights leaving Kabul, meaning that Americans who may have wished to leave Afghanistan have been left on the ground.
“We maintained the ability to bring them in up until immediately before departure, but we were not able to bring any Americans out. That activity ended probably about 12 hours before our exit, although we continued the outreach and would've been prepared to bring them on until the very last minute, but none of them made it to the airport and were able to be accommodated,” McKenzie said.
McKenzie said there were no evacuees left at the airport when the final flights left.
A senior State Department official said earlier Monday the Department believed there were fewer than 250 American citizens who may wish to leave Afghanistan."
fishtm2001
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- We were suffering almost no casualties, so why didn't we just stay in Afghanistan? Because things were peaceful only due to the Taliban cease-fire. If we had stayed, the Taliban would have started fighting again and US casualties would have escalated.
- Why were weapons left behind? Because those weapons had been given to the Afghan army as part of the turnover.
- Why was Bagram air base closed? Because we only needed one airport and the military decided that Kabul was a better choice.
- Why was there so much chaos? It's easy to see how it looked that way if you were caught in the middle of it, but there wasn't, really. There were thousands of Afghans who wanted to flee the country and they all surrounded the airport hoping for evacuation. There's nothing anyone could have done about that, and for the most part the crowds were handled well and processed as efficiently as anyone could have hoped for.
- Why did it take so long to approve visas for Afghans who qualified for evacuation? It didn't. We approved visas for 100,000 Afghans in two weeks! And to the extent that this was slower than it could have been, it's because the Trump administration deliberately sabotaged the process before they left office.
- Why didn't we rescue everyone? As always, there are limits to American power. The Taliban controls Kabul, and rescuing literally everyone who wanted to get out was never remotely feasible.
- Why didn't we start evacuation earlier? Because we couldn't. As long as the Afghan government was in power, we had to support them. Starting a mass evacuation would have been an obvious signal that we thought they were doomed.
- Why didn't we know that the Taliban would take over so quickly? That's a very good question, and it was certainly a failure on our part. On the other hand, literally everyone made the same mistake. There wasn't a single analyst or reporter on the ground who thought the Taliban would take control of Kabul in less than a month.
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Yeah, that's what it must have been. The Americans who likely fear for their lives were just too lazy to bother getting to the airport in time.
Weirdo.
Strange historical feat to be proud of. That many were lifted out because our evacuation from Afghanistan after US troops had already been pulled out from around the country was an absolute
show.
Biden breaks promise to 'stay' in Afghanistan until every American evacuated
President Biden appears to have broken his promise to stay in Afghanistan until every American is evacuated after Marine Corps Gen. Kenneth friend. McKenzie Jr. announced Monday evening that the last of the U.S. troops stationed at the Kabul airport had left, completing the military’s drawdown in the...
"That's what we're doing now, that's the path we're on. And I think we'll get there," he said. "If there's American citizens left, we're gonna stay to get them all out."
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The evacuation of Kabul will go down as one of the shining moments of the US military.President Joe Biden told ABC News' George Stephanopoulos during an interview on Aug. 18 that the U.S. military objective in Afghanistan was to get "everyone" out, including Americans and Afghan allies and their families.Biden breaks promise to 'stay' in Afghanistan until every American evacuated
President Biden appears to have broken his promise to stay in Afghanistan until every American is evacuated after Marine Corps Gen. Kenneth friend. McKenzie Jr. announced Monday evening that the last of the U.S. troops stationed at the Kabul airport had left, completing the military’s drawdown in the...www.foxnews.com
"That's what we're doing now, that's the path we're on. And I think we'll get there," he said. "If there's American citizens left, we're gonna stay to get them all out."
13 members of our military died who absolutely didn't have to and lots of people who should have gotten out didn't. A "shining moment"? What the hell is wrong with you?
fishtm2001
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Joe has overseen a military and government that have managed, since the announcement of America’s withdrawal, one of the most extraordinary logistical feats in their recent history. Thanks, Joe.
fishtm2001
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Just over a month ago, donald was bragging about doing the same thing Biden's doing.
fishtm2001
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The GOP for some reason has wiped clean their webpage laying out Trump’s negotiations and work with the Taliban during his presidency.
Biden made his withdrawal announcement on April 13. 139 days ago. The picture you're trying to paint is attempted revisionist history that would have only been true had the evacuation of Americans and our Afghan partners begun in a meaningful way shortly after the announcement. Which it should have.
It didn't, and the frantic "historic airlift" you're for some reason so proud of has still left the fates of thousands of otherwise SIV-eligible Afghans and hundreds of Americans to the tender mercies of our enemies.
Biden to Withdraw All Combat Troops From Afghanistan by Sept. 11 (Published 2021)
After years of arguing against an extended military presence in Afghanistan, President Biden is doing things his way, with the deadline for withdrawal set for the 20th anniversary of the terrorist attacks.
fishtm2001
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You are sadly uniformed.Biden made his withdrawal announcement on April 13. 139 days ago. The picture you're trying to paint is attempted revisionist history that would have only been true had the evacuation of Americans and our Afghan partners begun in a meaningful way shortly after the announcement. Which it should have.
It didn't, and the frantic "historic airlift" you're for some reason so proud of has still left the fates of thousands of otherwise SIV-eligible Afghans and hundreds of Americans to the tender mercies of our enemies.
Biden to Withdraw All Combat Troops From Afghanistan by Sept. 11 (Published 2021)
After years of arguing against an extended military presence in Afghanistan, President Biden is doing things his way, with the deadline for withdrawal set for the 20th anniversary of the terrorist attacks.www.nytimes.com
I think it's pretty clear who's just here to put a political extremist spin on the actual facts.
Hope you're not paywalled out of that New York Times link. I sometimes forget that not every fellow Biden voter has a NYT subscription.
fishtm2001
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Never mind that the previous administration’s deal with the Taliban included the release of 5,000 fighters from prison and favored an even earlier departure date than the one that Joe embraced.
Trump wanted out before the Afghan fighting season started up. Joe chose the middle of the fighting season and did it in the worst possible way. And he had the choice of doing things differently and letting the Taliban know they'd each get face
ed by a missile if they had a problem with it.fishtm2001
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In a sharp contrast from the last four years, an American leader has done the hard thing, the right thing: setting aside politics, putting America's interests and values ahead of his own.
Are you the anti DIDO?
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