Can we finally get a chance to vote on something?

[Sporhwhore]

The time has come! This needs to be the week all the speculation comes to an end and ups give’s their LBFO and lets the members decide what happens next! Been reading a lot of posts past few weeks and everything is speculation! It’s time for them to send us all something to vote on! Maybe it’s crap ; maybe it’s not but in the end our 350,000 members need to decide our own fate!

 

[Sporhwhore]

Personally I don’t know if I wanna strike or not… how can I decide that unless I have a proposal to look over? Sean said no concessions and sounds like ups agreed to that! He ran on no more 22.4, no excessive overtime , no further technology, AC in package cars ( which I’ll be retired before that happens …. If he gets part timers a decent increase let’s say $20 -$22 an hour starting wage and full timers $1.50-$2 a year I’d say that’s a victory especially compared to last contract… I know the big issue is long term part time pay raises and I don’t have an answer for that but years ago ups and teamsters should have did a progression similar to full time jobs and that didn’t happen! Unfortunately I hope that doesn’t come back to bite ups and teamsters which it looks like that’s exactly what the holdup is from everything I’m reading.

 

[anonymous23456]

Personally I don’t know if I wanna strike or not… how can I decide that unless I have a proposal to look over? Sean said no concessions and sounds like ups agreed to that! He ran on no more 22.4, no excessive overtime , no further technology, AC in package cars ( which I’ll be retired before that happens …. If he gets part timers a decent increase let’s say $20 -$22 an hour starting wage and full timers $1.50-$2 a year I’d say that’s a victory especially compared to last contract… I know the big issue is long term part time pay raises and I don’t have an answer for that but years ago ups and teamsters should have did a progression similar to full time jobs and that didn’t happen! Unfortunately I hope that doesn’t come back to bite ups and teamsters which it looks like that’s exactly what the holdup is from everything I’m reading.

You mean when teleporting comes out, UPS is not allowed to use it? I didn't know Union can hold back progress.

 

[Ghost in the Darkness]

What is the actual number of UPS Teamsters, Teamsters say around 340,000... UPS says 330,000? How can the estimates be roughly 10,000 apart...lol?

 

[Sporhwhore]

I could definitely see a 10,000-20,000 fluctuation depending on the week and the volume level

 

[Ghost in the Darkness]

Ok... so basically a 5,000 person shift either way depending on hirings and people leaving (resignations & firings). It just looks silly when the estimates are 10,000 apart.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

What is the actual number of UPS Teamsters, Teamsters say around 340,000... UPS says 330,000? How can the estimates be roughly 10,000 apart...lol?

Maybe that's including the right to work people

 

[BigUnionGuy]

The car washers are holding every thing up.

@PT Car Washer

 

[542thruNthru]

The time has come! This needs to be the week all the speculation comes to an end and ups give’s their LBFO and lets the members decide what happens next! Been reading a lot of posts past few weeks and everything is speculation! It’s time for them to send us all something to vote on! Maybe it’s crap ; maybe it’s not but in the end our 350,000 members need to decide our own fate!

Who says that IBT has to send it to you just because UPS says it's LBFO?

 

[Sporhwhore]

* Assuming it’s up to union leader approval of course…. People are getting nervous… let’s get this smilet over with already! Employees, customers, union officials, management…it’s go or go home time!

 

[Sporhwhore]

Let’s get this s **t over with already damn autocorrect

 

[Bubblehead]

What is the actual number of UPS Teamsters, Teamsters say around 340,000... UPS says 330,000? How can the estimates be roughly 10,000 apart...lol?

Right to work....lots of freeloaders joining this month.

 

[Sporhwhore]

BTW I’m a longtime teamster who realizes we don’t get what we have without them negotiating for us but I hope members have the chance to vote and I’m speaking for majority of my hub whether they are pro company or pro union or in between 90% wanna chance to vote

 

[Bubblehead]

The time has come! This needs to be the week all the speculation comes to an end and ups give’s their LBFO and lets the members decide what happens next! Been reading a lot of posts past few weeks and everything is speculation! It’s time for them to send us all something to vote on! Maybe it’s crap ; maybe it’s not but in the end our 350,000 members need to decide our own fate!

Personally I don’t know if I wanna strike or not… how can I decide that unless I have a proposal to look over? Sean said no concessions and sounds like ups agreed to that! He ran on no more 22.4, no excessive overtime , no further technology, AC in package cars ( which I’ll be retired before that happens …. If he gets part timers a decent increase let’s say $20 -$22 an hour starting wage and full timers $1.50-$2 a year I’d say that’s a victory especially compared to last contract… I know the big issue is long term part time pay raises and I don’t have an answer for that but years ago ups and teamsters should have did a progression similar to full time jobs and that didn’t happen! Unfortunately I hope that doesn’t come back to bite ups and teamsters which it looks like that’s exactly what the holdup is from everything I’m reading.

* Assuming it’s up to union leader approval of course…. People are getting nervous… let’s get this smilet over with already! Employees, customers, union officials, management…it’s go or go home time!

Let’s get this s **t over with already damn autocorrect

When you decide to start a thread, get all your thoughts together in your original post, then sit back and absorb the thoughts you have solicited.

Just an observation and my opinion of course.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Right to work....lots of freeloaders joining this month.

They should not get anything

 

[Bubblehead]

BTW I’m a longtime teamster who realizes we don’t get what we have without them negotiating for us but I hope members have the chance to vote and I’m speaking for majority of my hub whether they are pro company or pro union or in between 90% wanna chance to vote

....or just keep firing away, I guess.

 

[Sporhwhore]

The longer this drags out the more volume we lose… volume = jobs= members= dues= teamsters funds…. My management team unless they are playing me for a fool are more in the dark then the hourlies are in my hub… I support my union always have always will I just hope we don’t throw away everything we achieved during the past few months of negotiations especially when we ( teamsters and ups) agree on 95% of what’s been negotiated

 

[Sporhwhore]

If we strike which I’m all for if it’s necessary everything that was negotiated gets thrown out and we go back to square one and possibly lose our gains from what I’m being told

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

If we strike which I’m all for if it’s necessary everything that was negotiated gets thrown out and we go back to square one and possibly lose our gains from what I’m being told

Settle down
Sheesh

 

[Sporhwhore]

When you decide to start a thread, get all your thoughts together in your original post, then sit back and absorb the thoughts you have solicited.

Just an observation and my opinion of course.

I’m just trying to comment on what seems to be the talk going around in my hub that’s all! Thanks for your constructive criticism haha