Casual Driver, What Union Benefits?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by MassWineGuy, Oct 2, 2013.

  1. MassWineGuy

    MassWineGuy Well-Known Member

    There's a good chance that I'll be hired as a casual, seasonal driver for the holidays, as well as for two or three months in the summer. I'd be paying the initiation fee, which is fine with me. Can someone please tell me how I'd be covered under the contract (or not), assuming I get through my 30 day probation without a problem?

    Thank you.
  2. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    If you are a seasonal driver you are guaranteed to be paid for all the hours you have worked. Hopefully you will get your initiation fee back.
  3. cb1969

    cb1969 Member

    First, if you are not a regular employee with UPS you are still covered by the CBA. Second, I believe if not a reg employee you have to get your 30 days in before you can join. Third, if you are a pt employee now, your dues are based on your pt job and there is no initiation fee for pt members.
  4. MassWineGuy

    MassWineGuy Well-Known Member

    Thank you, everyone, for this good information. I guess I'd be a full time seasonal employee. We were told that the initiation fee will come out of our first 10 checks. Maybe that starts after the 30 days.
  5. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    In the Central Region Supplement the only contraction rights for a seasonal employee are the wages agreed upon.
  6. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    You get the right to run 3 plus hours over every day. What can they do, fire you? We got temps going out with small splits that would take any regular driver 6 hours to bang off. They are getting it off in 9. This is gravy work too. Way to go!
  7. UnsurePost

    UnsurePost making the unreadable unreadabler

    The initiation should be deducted immediately. When you're let go after the free period (most likely), you can recover the init. fees if that interests you.
  8. opie

    opie Member

    It figures because they can pay them less, and not pay for their benefits/pension. They just sent 4 part-timers back to PT at my building. Cheaper to use casuals.
  9. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    How do you go from part time back to part time?
  10. opie

    opie Member

    We had part timers go full time, but all got sent back to part time before their 30 days.
  11. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    You will have to be a bit more specific as to your location. Rules vary by region and state. Right to work states are very different than closed shop states. Here in a right to work state you never become a Union member as a seasonal and have no contractual rights other than the pay. As far as I am concerned seasonals here are SCABS!!
  12. MassWineGuy

    MassWineGuy Well-Known Member

    I'd be working out of Lynnfield, Massachusetts.

    Don't be so hard on those who need seasonal work. Is it that they can't join the union even if they want to, or that most can and do choose not to join? Certainly, as a seasonal driver's helper I wasn't able to join. Now as a seasonal driver I've got to join, which is ok with me. I'm still unclear about the initiation fee. If I last until Jan. 15th, the layoff date UPS gave me, I can get the money back? How? Haven't heard of that. Of course, if I end up loving the job, I'll leave the money where it is and drive again in the summer.
  13. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    Assuming you do not work at UPS part time, get a withdrawal card from the union after the seasonal period, that way your initiation fees will be credited to you upon further employment with any teamster company. Good luck