Is your new pension really secured? Please read what tud is saying.
Are there any untruths in that linked site? If so what are they?TDU has no problem threatening everyones pensions to further thier own personal agenda.
Is your new pension really secured? Please read what tud is saying.
Will the NG sign up a 59 year old, worn out guy?This, and other reasons, is exactly why I'm seriously considering staying in the National Guard for 14 more years so I can get a pension. I simply don't trust UPS nor the Teamsters. I figure a good 401K, some growth stock mutual funds, and a couple of other projects I'm considering combined with a military pension should help out if our UPS pension ends up falling short.
Big, I do not remember this being discussed back during the contract, so I apologize if it was. Was this on the table then? Was everyone under the impression that the cs but out would cover you for the rest of your career/retirement? Or is this news to everyone that voted on it?This, and other reasons, is exactly why I'm seriously considering staying in the National Guard for 14 more years so I can get a pension. I simply don't trust UPS nor the Teamsters. I figure a good 401K, some growth stock mutual funds, and a couple of other projects I'm considering combined with a military pension should help out if our UPS pension ends up falling short.
Please enlighten us and show us that tdu is providing false information!TDU has no problem threatening everyones pensions to further thier own personal agenda.
Please enlighten us and show us that tdu is providing false information!
Or are you just upset that its apparent that tdu has outed this conspiracy that ups and the ibt has created?
If what tdu has posted is true, and until someone shots holes in their story we will treat is true, does anyone have any idea what kind of concessions the members will have to give in order to keep ups to this agreement?
We are talking about giving up our current medical, wage freezes, etc. Why? Because our current leadership did a piss poor job on this language! Something as serious as this should have been addressed for years down the road.
UPS knows how to make money while Central States only knows how to lose it. Guess who I wish all my pension was with.
Will the NG sign up a 59 year old, worn out guy?
We have been through this before Scratch with the 804-UPS plan that I am with. You can remember the problems we had approx 2 years ago and the cuts they gave us with the 447 president? Before you wish upon a star, take a look on the other side of the fence on whats going on out here. Like you boss tells you all the time, get the big picture.
First of any teamster can contact TDU! But to please you i will say that i am not a card carrying TDU member.there some things called pension laws you may want to explore before you completely submit yourself to this dribble. But then again that dribble is what you wanted to believe.
I know you're somehow associated with that tdu site and its postings. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to constantly throw the CS pensioners into hysteria with your pension threats.
you don't think his saying CS loses money is getting the big picture?
First of any teamster can contact TDU! But to please you i will say that i am not a card carrying TDU member.
And under ERISA as we have just dealt with here in our lawsuit the terms of a pension can be outlined during a negotiation. I am by no means a pension expert! I am however a concerned UPS Teamster and i believe that the last contract was a ruch to save the cs pensioners, when all we did was by them 5 years!
Look outside the window, everyone is losing money(recession). I think too many people like to play the blame game and not look at it on the other side. Not directing anything toward you Scratch.
Hey 705, why do you let a Stupidvisor like Tieguy even talk to you about TDU. Like he has a clue. He's just a sniper with a burr in his butt. He lives to hate drivers.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Snipers Dil. Nothing positive to contribute. Just pick apart with snide remarks, and shoot down anything. Talk about hiding behind the computer.