Corporate Greed, Spineless Union

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Sissy Brown Short Shorts, Feb 12, 2020.

  1. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Remember this thread when everyone says there’s no volume and people are being laid off. If you’re low in seniority, I’m not actually sure why you wouldn’t want to work for OT all day.
  2. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Wow. That would be 5 Centers at my building.
  3. Whither

    Whither Scofflaw

    Some of us enjoy our time off and are capable of budgeting even without making top scale ... This is pure company talk -- "Oh, you don't like working 6 days a week -- see how you like being laid off!" Though if my center mgr said anything like that, I'd say heck yes, I'm filing for unemployment :thumbup::thumbup:
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  4. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Company talk? Hardly.

    Most of the posts I see on here are how Amazon is moving volume, no more flowers to deliver, we’re losing accounts left and right, UPS is taking our OT away.

    If you’re ok not working Saturday’s and are financially stable, good on you. I’m doing fine myself, but I also have kids that are in college, of which I fully paid for myself in cash and understand working half as hard for 50% more pay is “easy money”. My comment is mainly referring to “make hay while the sun is shining” meaning the pendulum will swing in the other direction soon, how it will effect you will be up to how you handle yourself in the current environment
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  5. Rack em

    Rack em First to worst!

    I believe that it has to be a holiday as well, not just an air day on Saturday.
  6. WTFm8

    WTFm8 Active Member

    Nah, air any time unfortunately.
  7. Saca La

    Saca La What is it?

    I’m with you on this one. When work really slows down. Everyone is going to complain there is not enough work. While I take advantage of this over time.
  8. Whither

    Whither Scofflaw

    I understood your point. Nevertheless, working 6 days a week close to your max DOT hours for months on end is a legitimate safety hazard. We are human beings. The company wants tireless machines.

    Yesterday I was waiting outside the office to get my first warning letter. Spoke with a younger driver with less than 2 years seniority who was on deck. Turns out he was there to give his notice (with the steward present), was sick and tired of the 6 day weeks. Several fellow low-seniority drivers are teetering on the edge.
  9. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    That's a generational issue.

    Imagine how many would leave, if they couldn't have their cell phone with them.

    They take advantage of the people.... that let them.
  10. The Driver

    The Driver I drive.

    Your kids couldn't be bothered to work and pay for their own school? Scholarships?

    Damn kids have it easy these days. ;)
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  11. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    My kids worked to get the requirements for HOPE scholarship, requires 3.0 and two advanced courses in HS. They also both had been working PT throughout HS, saving half their checks in savings so in college they have spending money budgeted every month so they aren’t required to work. Both have had checking/savings accounts since 15, both paid for half their used cars. My daughter will graduate with her bachelors in 3 years as she took enough AP courses to cut a full year off her college. Son will be starting his freshman year this year.

    I’d say they’ve put enough skin in the game for me to pay the rest of the tuition/room/board.
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  12. Whither

    Whither Scofflaw

    So which is it? You want it both ways here.

    I've spoken with most of the senior drivers in my center re: forced 6 days. They think it's outrageous too, and more than a couple have been surprised to learn that our contract does not prohibit it outside of peak.
  13. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    My kids had to work their way thru college like I did. We helped with books and minor expenses . A couple are in the Air Force and are going to have their college paid for them that way. I went to community college for 2 years and then transferred to a University in Boston. Worked a full time schedule the whole time. The quality education you get at a state or community college or an Ivy League school depends on the student.
    Kids these days are too coddled and are weaker for it. i pounded in my kids' heads from an early age that if they wanted anything in this world they would have to work for it.

  14. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    How did they not know that ?
  15. Whither

    Whither Scofflaw

    Probably because Sat delivery has never affected them at all?

    You didn't answer my question. Are the kids lazy ingrates (because they don't want 6 day schedules)? Or are they brown-nosing runner-gunner stooges happy to slave for the company?
  16. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    I'll let you be the judge.
  17. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    If I’m working 6 day weeks for longer than December I’ll just go be a heavy machinery op
  18. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    The only difference most of the time is the older drivers feel they too many years in to start over.
  19. Netsua 3:16

    Netsua 3:16 Stop being a little bitch

    How about some balance???? Speaking as a lazy, entitled millennial, I don’t mind staying out late a couple nights a week. I don’t mind working a 6th punch every couple of months, and all of December. It’s the feeling of being run down and not having control over your life that is difficult. Has nothing to do with a lack of desire to work hard and sacrifice.
  20. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Is there a pole waiting for the grandkids too?