Corporate Greed, Spineless Union

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Sissy Brown Short Shorts, Feb 12, 2020.

  1. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    If I was being forced to work 6 days every week with no end in sight. I'd go to my doctor with a "injury" and request FMLA. I'd use those intermittent 12 weeks to take every Saturday off.
  2. ski or die

    ski or die Ski or Die

    Many of the drivers vote, but a substantial number do not bother, just like our political elections. Add in the part time hub employees that are working their way thru college and are not concerned with the issues affecting package car drivers and they do not bother to vote but they are considered into the percentage to meet to vote down a contract. Hopeless situation.
  3. Justaloader

    Justaloader Active Member

    Add to that a number of folks that simply don't understand the situation and what's being voted on, and have no idea whom to talk to in order to get the facts so that they can be "informed" and then vote accordingly.....
  4. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    There are numerous resources to get information from.
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  5. Denis T's conference call that wouldn't take any unscripted questions?:speechless:
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  6. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    I can see why that would happen.

    You would have people asking question's relating to their personal area and

    their personal concerns. Something like that should be done at the Local.
  7. They could have been more clear on the 22.4 language. There why I voted no.
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  8. Wally

    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

    Ha ha, sucks to be them! The union has nothing to say about it.
  9. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    I honestly do not get it. Before UPS ( age 37 ) I worked 70-80 hours a week and sometimes more. Worked the crop seasons In California for years. Tomato , onion , almond etc. which was 7 days a week 12 hours a day. No hours of service regs for under 100 air miles ( that may be diff now )

    anyways working for UPS had been practically a semi-vacation in comparison. Averaged 55-60 hours after I got bid runs for almost my whole career.With a disabled spouse who could not work and 6 kids , had no choice .
  10. MattM

    MattM Active Member

    Why not hire more drivers?

    my area is in a hiring freeze but are essentially forcing OT out of the few they have.

    But then they DQ guys for the weirdest stuff

    My air building has 15 guys who want to drive but can’t even latch on. They’re either guaranteed 70 hours a week, or drive for one or two days for 8 hours. Why is asking for consistency that hard?
  11. It sucks being at the bottom. We all went through it.
  12. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Its strange to see so many supplmentals/Riders that have little to no language for 22.4s. I remember talking to Andy M after a contract meeting. He mentioned how some areas were riding the vote NO so hard that they were failing to put language in place for 22.4s and that if it passed they were going to have a lot of issues.

    Don't know if that's what happen but it sure looks like it in some places.
  13. Wally

    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

    Part of the problem is us. Stop taking Monday off M-F drivers. All you are doing is allowing them to hack.
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  14. I'm sure more confusion is to come shortly after we get 22.4 drivers everywhere
  15. Dragon

    Dragon Package Center Manager

    Welcome to the New UPS, you can thank more M-F on this job.
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  16. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    I rarely agree with you but with this I do. People could not see the writing on the wall???
    I warned about this years ago. Way before I retired 4 years ago.
  17. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Well I guess at the end of April you and every other driver start filing Article 22.4 grievances.
  18. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

  19. Only if you don't have seniority:happy-very:
  20. Misthios

    Misthios I love my job. Don't you?

    My favorite thing to do every saturday when I worked them. Go ahead and ride with me. We will be out all night no worries. Loved it before the navigation because hell I had no idea where I was for a better portion of the day.