COVID lockdown 2.0

watdaflock?

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You were the one who said that it was either let it run rampant or lock down entirely.
Quote where I said that.

The false promise of herd immunity for COVID-19.

"models that calculate numbers at the lower end of that range rely on assumptions about how people interact in social networks that might not hold true, Scarpino says. Low-end estimates imagine that people with many contacts will get infected first, and that because they have a large number of contacts, they will spread the virus to more people. As these ‘superspreaders’ gain immunity to the virus, the transmission chains among those who are still susceptible are greatly reduced. And “as a result of that, you very quickly get to the herd-immunity threshold”, Scarpino says. But if it turns out that anybody could become a superspreader, then “those assumptions that people are relying on to get the estimates down to around 20% or 30% are just not accurate”, Scarpino explains. The result is that the herd-immunity threshold will be closer to 60–70%, which is what most models show"
 
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zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Quote where I said that.

The false promise of herd immunity for COVID-19.

"models that calculate numbers at the lower end of that range rely on assumptions about how people interact in social networks that might not hold true, Scarpino says. Low-end estimates imagine that people with many contacts will get infected first, and that because they have a large number of contacts, they will spread the virus to more people. As these ‘superspreaders’ gain immunity to the virus, the transmission chains among those who are still susceptible are greatly reduced. And “as a result of that, you very quickly get to the herd-immunity threshold”, Scarpino says. But if it turns out that anybody could become a superspreader, then “those assumptions that people are relying on to get the estimates down to around 20% or 30% are just not accurate”, Scarpino explains. The result is that the herd-immunity threshold will be closer to 60–70%, which is what most models show"

Are you such an idiot at work, or only while on the internet? A planned exposure to infect of millions of additional people as well as the severe illness and preventable deaths of hundreds of thousands of people is not the answer.

This was in response to @charm299 saying that lock downs should never have happened. The implication of what you wrote was that if not lock downs, then the only solution you can come up with was letting the virus run rampant. Then you strawmanned that into being the belief held by anyone who is against lock downs. Then you tried to deny ever saying it.

As for your article. That guy is literally making up stuff. The lower thresholds are based on variability in susceptibility, which have been demonstrated throughout many populations. Individuals as superspreaders is an imaginary concept. Superspreaders are, in reality, events in which large numbers of people become infected. Also, herd immunity threshold is the point at which cases begin to decline until herd immunity is reached. 10-20% is the threshold, with herd immunity being reached by 40 to 50% in many models.

The point of vaccination is to help reach herd immunity while mitigating the damage from a disease. It's not either herd immunity or vaccination, herd immunity is inevitable, regardless of how it is reached.
 

DOK

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Don't worry, Joe Biden will save us by winding the clock back to March 2020 and starting from scratch. National mask mandates, national mandatory re-lockdowns and more free stimulus money courtesy of our national debt and the Chinese government.
I heard he was going to wave his magic wand?
 
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