CRT Will Destroy Unions
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GenericUsername
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I love how someone named communist is posting about Socialism destroying unions when there are many Nordic countries who are thriving, while being Socialist, and having huge unions, free health care, free education, and so many other things.
Govt already passed laws like taft hartley which destroyed us unions
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Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
Name one.
Finland norway, denmark sweden greatest countries in the world as far as policy goes
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
Not socialist nations. Keep trying.
They are mixed economies but their govt programs arent so focused on war unlike america. us is a mixed econ too. but i agree for it to be truly socialist there would b no bosses on the job not capitalism, just worker owners and workers voting
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
Being a democratic capitalist nation with social programs is not even in the same conversation as "being Socialist" on any level. Your understanding of Socialism is interesting, ask all of those Chinese workers how they like their ownership roles and having a vote.
Or we can ask the american worker owners or italian or mondragon in spain.....Not sure wat china biz u r talking about i assume ur using the wrong def of socialism. no nation is pure capitalist
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
China is a Socialist nation, as was the U.S.S.R. before being dismantled. Seems like a good idea, we should probably try that, that would make America great.
Fyi the tradition term for socialism has always been workers owning and directing their jobs not bosses unlike capitalism or govt owning everything.
U dont know this bc those who control the economy control wat ppl think.
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
No, I know the dream of Socialism and there's much more to it than community ownership when it comes to labor. We've also see how it works out.
no thats actually teh traditional definition. now think why dont you know this? it couldnt be to maintain exploitation in capitalism?
mondragon one of the largest businesses in spain. elected managers only make 12x what lowest paid worker makes VS 350x ceos make in america.
The Emilia model
The Emilia Romagna region is home to a population of 3.9 million people (seven percent of the national population). Italy is divided into 103 provinces which make up 20 regions. The regional capital of Bologna is both a city and a province and has a population of 380,000.By 2003 the dreams of cooperators had created an impressive reality. There are thousands of cooperatives of all types in Emilia Romagna.
- Cooperatives make up over 40% of the GDP of the ER region
- In Bologna two out of three citizens are members of a cooperative
- In Bologna over 85% of the city's social services are provided by social co-ops
- Per capita income in ER has risen from 17th to second among Italy's 20 regions
- Per capital income is 50% higher than the national average
- Of the European regions, ER is number 11 of 122 regions in terms of GNP per inhabitant
- Bologna has the highest disposable income of any of Italy's 103 provinces
- Bologna has the highest per capita expenditure on the arts of any city in Italy
- The unemployment rate of 4% is virtually full employment
- 70% of Bologna's households have home ownership
Italy's Emilia Romagna | Cooperative Grocer Archives
www.grocer.coop
Continuous variable transmissions did mark the end of an era for unions.
continuious variable trans will destroy everything
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
That's a great example of successful co-ops making it work. Fast forward to 2017 and their unemployment was 70% higher, and even 25% higher than ours right now. And with co-ops, you still have elected officials running the show, singular entities, not workers voting on how the business is run. Look, I love the idea, but the plausibility just isn't there. Socialism still has rich and poor, no different than any other society. At least in my society, I can decide to not be poor.no thats actually teh traditional definition. now think why dont you know this? it couldnt be to maintain exploitation in capitalism?
mondragon one of the largest businesses in spain. elected managers only make 12x what lowest paid worker makes VS 350x ceos make in america.
The Emilia model
The Emilia Romagna region is home to a population of 3.9 million people (seven percent of the national population). Italy is divided into 103 provinces which make up 20 regions. The regional capital of Bologna is both a city and a province and has a population of 380,000.
By 2003 the dreams of cooperators had created an impressive reality. There are thousands of cooperatives of all types in Emilia Romagna.
- Cooperatives make up over 40% of the GDP of the ER region
- In Bologna two out of three citizens are members of a cooperative
- In Bologna over 85% of the city's social services are provided by social co-ops
- Per capita income in ER has risen from 17th to second among Italy's 20 regions
- Per capital income is 50% higher than the national average
- Of the European regions, ER is number 11 of 122 regions in terms of GNP per inhabitant
- Bologna has the highest disposable income of any of Italy's 103 provinces
- Bologna has the highest per capita expenditure on the arts of any city in Italy
- The unemployment rate of 4% is virtually full employment
- 70% of Bologna's households have home ownership
Italy's Emilia Romagna | Cooperative Grocer Archives
BeefiestMass
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Social democracy is socialist, but in a pretty loose sense, as they prefer working with moderates over the Left, and sided solidly with the West against Communism during the Cold War. The international organization for Social Democratic parties is the Socialist International. America's social democratic "party" is the Democratic Socialists of America.
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