“…I have to say that is the fastest I have ever heard of anyone moving into Saturdays. And for that I would be a little wary. The master agreement is clear on seniority..so you might want to just double check it with the union steward. Make sure you are going to get paid according to the contract.
I don't know anything about the $25 training days..maybe that is a new agreement thing..
But I have to say...what you are having to do..or rather the order in which they are having you do it in..is quite different than what I had to do to qualify.
Before I did anything I had to go get a CL. Then I had to pass the road test before they invested in my MDOT phys. I wasn't required to do a drug screen. Per fed regulation at the time perhaps. I then had to apply for the job online and that had to be processed as well as my DMV. That took two weeks alone! After HR notified our in house HR I was clear..they ordered my uniforms.
So yeah..maybe it's just different other places..but as a new hire..you need to really be careful. Ask alot of questions….”
“…This is pretty much the same here as well...they will not even waste their time on your phys. if ya can't and haven't passed the driving test.
Yeah...for me...still don't buy it...I say the catch is coming….”
“…and yeah......I also find it hard to believe that UPS was like...
OKAY HERE YOU GO WE'RE GIVING YOU THIS UNIFORM...AND YOU ARE NOW A REPRESENTATION OF UPS before we ever know:
if you can drive
never mind drive...drive stick
never mind drive stick...drive a box truck
without a physical
without DOT approval
without an online application
without a physical 10yr (DOT req) driving abstract
without a drug test
I mean no disrespect to ya, but you wouldn't be wearing one of my uniforms just yet.
I don't even know your character yet??
How are you going to treat my customers or react for that matter, if ya get mad or upset??…”
It is important to understand this - (no, not a catch) - I DO NOT know how this is supposed to work, don't know what the "proper" procedure is, but I CAN tell you this - I am happy with how it is going.
Now, To clarify a few things -
- I have extensive past Commercial driving experience
- I don't know why they gave me the MDOT physical today and are giving me the road test tomorrow. Don't care either. (Passed the physical, with one hitch - I take a medication that my Family Dr. had to sign off on, saying it would not affect my driving)
- I DID apply for the driving job online - at the direction of HR - called a "Utility Driver Application" if I recall. Did that yesterday.
- DMV records WERE run, for all states I ever had a license in
- I have the ABILITY to drive any vehicle, box to triples. HR is aware of this for reasons I won't go into here. Heck, my personal car is bigger than the box trucks delivery drivers use. Try driving a 53 Dodge box truck w/a crash box & no power anything.
Now, as for my character;
For the week before my interview, the week after, I was in constant communication with - everyone at UPS. They know me quite well, as well as knowing my intentions - to become a full time driver.
My stating that my original training was "here's a truck. Unload it. Labels up" is true. And I did so from 3am to 8am or so every day. What I neglected to say was that I then would go home, take a shower, and be back at UPS at 9am, and I personally met everyone I could, asked all the questions I could. When management pulled me aside to ask me what I was doing, I said "I want to be a UPS driver sooner than anyone else ever has, my name is XXXXXXXXXX". I answered everyone this way.
8 ways to pick up a box. 5 ways to walk/stand. Everything I could learn. Asked continually for computer training, booklets, etc. And stayed till 4pm every day trying to learn, showing commitment. This after pulling no fewer than 1400/hr EVERY DAY.
No, the above may not havbe been enough. I had always assumed everyone who takes such a




starting job did so because they want to be a driver someday. Turns out, of the 20 others in my position, only one other guy wants to be a driver. (Side Note - He is driving Saturdays after 2 months, taking testing for FT driver now) Every other guy in my position there is there for the benefits. A couple guys who paint for a living, a few farmers, a few guys who just want to go home and sleep.
I have the best attitude in the building. I have more drive than anyone in a 3 mile radius. I'd like to think that they saw that.
But you know what? Whether it is the above, or that the HR manager is on crack,
I DON'T CARE! I'm getting where I wanted to be.
I'm kinda dissappointed y'all are pissing on my Wheaties