Defund the Police Excuse Making - Enabling Anti-American Hate Groups

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Now are you starting to piece it together? Trump was the true threat to the establishment, to government doing whatever it wanted. The "protesters" were a smoke and mirror, razzle dazzle lame attempt at the establishment trying to make people think they cared about the people.

Even the real protests were co-opted through media narrative to be about getting Trump out of office, because people still believe the media lie "good people on both sides" meant Trump was a white supremacist. I still see people making that claim based on that eidted sound bite.
no trump maintained alot of the stuff that was already happening. trump probably is a racist most US presidents were. racism has been a problem since hte founding of america id guess. its perfectly reasonable to expect a social movement to fight it to appear. it was also likely about stuff bigger than racism too, like the economy and a broken govt.
 

baklava

I don’t work at UPS anymore.
"What would police city budgets look like if they had kept pace with homicide rates?

Take New York City, which spent $3.4 billion on policing in 1994, after adjustments for inflation. That year, the city saw 1,561 homicides. If that spending ratio had held constant, New York would have spent less than $1 billion in 2017, as a decades-long drop in violence reduced the need for policing.

Instead, New York spent more than $5 billion.'

Politico
...could it possibly be that more money spent on policing = less homicides?
 

quad decade guy

Well-Known Member
duplicate thread.

american police have been infiltrated by kkk. intercept has covered this.

go look up serpicos opinion on modern policing LOL

they dont even teach marx in american economic schools for hte most part. its pathetic. its one of the major economic philosophies with austrian and keynesian.

police dont uphold the law. they enforce certain laws for certain segments of the population. white collar criminals get away with murder quite often. cops are also the guys to smash your heads in if you protest too much or strike.

and american cops are out of control relative to the west. pretty typical.

defund the empire, defund the police.
And the Democratic party has been infiltrated by the Communist...naw they've always been there.

Just now crawling out of the sewer. Get rid of Democrats/Liberals, solve much of Americas problems.
 

SLW

Well-Known Member
There are no Communists in the Democratic Party. Maybe 50 years ago, but 50 years ago there were probably also Communists in the Republican Party.
 

SLW

Well-Known Member
its few and far between.
The closest it comes is that Communist Party USA members vote for Democrats, but that's because they're Popular Frontists, not Democrat Party members. There is also a Communist Caucus in the DSA, and there are DSA members serving in the Democratic Party, but there are no Communist Caucus members in the Democratic Party.
I've also changed my mind and will agree with Quad Decade, actually: There are almost definitely Chinese Communist Party members in every major US party.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
The closest it comes is that Communist Party USA members vote for Democrats, but that's because they're Popular Frontists, not Democrat Party members. There is also a Communist Caucus in the DSA, and there are DSA members serving in the Democratic Party, but there are no Communist Caucus members in the Democratic Party.
I've also changed my mind and will agree with Quad Decade, actually: There are almost definitely Chinese Communist Party members in every major US party.
ur talking spies?
 

Tom MacDonald

Max E. Pads
"What would police city budgets look like if they had kept pace with homicide rates?

Take New York City, which spent $3.4 billion on policing in 1994, after adjustments for inflation. That year, the city saw 1,561 homicides. If that spending ratio had held constant, New York would have spent less than $1 billion in 2017, as a decades-long drop in violence reduced the need for policing.

Instead, New York spent more than $5 billion.'

Politico
 

Tom MacDonald

Max E. Pads
"What would police city budgets look like if they had kept pace with homicide rates?

Take New York City, which spent $3.4 billion on policing in 1994, after adjustments for inflation. That year, the city saw 1,561 homicides. If that spending ratio had held constant, New York would have spent less than $1 billion in 2017, as a decades-long drop in violence reduced the need for policing.

Instead, New York spent more than $5 billion.'

Politico
"October arrived, spreading a damp chill over the grounds and into the castle. Madam Pomfrey, the nurse, was kept busy by a sudden spate of colds among the staff and students. Her Pepperup potion worked instantly, though it left the drinker smoking at the ears for several hours afterward. Ginny Weasley, who had been looking pale, was bullied into taking some by Percy. The steam pouring from under her vivid hair gave the impression that her whole head was on fire."

Harry Potter.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
Funny though. As much as that word gets thrown around, people actually like things like Obamacare and Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid.
I agree with that ... I've always argued the USA is a Decentralized Socialist Democratic Republic with strong Social Programs.

Another thing I have always argued is that the Democratic Party represents a movement towards a West European style of Centralized Socialist Democrat form of government. Many of the leftist on here have argued against that belief but now seem to accept it.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
I agree with that ... I've always argued the USA is a Decentralized Socialist Democratic Republic with strong Social Programs.

Another thing I have always argued is that the Democratic Party represents a movement towards a West European style of Centralized Socialist Democrat form of government. Many of the leftist on here have argued against that belief but now seem to accept it.
I think that’s in large part in response to an irrationally strong relationship between government and business or at least business lobbyists.
 

SLW

Well-Known Member
other thing I have always argued is that the Democratic Party represents a movement towards a West European style of Centralized Socialist Democrat form of government. Many of the leftist on here have argued against that belief but now seem to accept it.
I think that's increasingly true, but it's a recent process mostly resisted by the DNC, in which Clintonian DLC types (like Biden) still have huge sway. I'd also argue it's a return to what the Democratic platform was like prior to the 1968 reforms and the over 30 years of Third Way politics that followed.
 

bbsam

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