Driver Helper

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by But Benefits Are Great!, Nov 18, 2008.

  1. But Benefits Are Great!

    But Benefits Are Great! Just Words On A Screen

    This is my first "peak"

    Had the pleasure of meeting some driver helpers today. I am frightened for the future of this company.
  2. helenofcalifornia

    helenofcalifornia Well-Known Member

    Are they "outside" hires or UPS PTers? Makes a huge difference. Outside hires have no idea of what they are walking into, making our PTers looking like friggin' genius athletes!
  3. rocket man

    rocket man Well-Known Member

  4. But Benefits Are Great!

    But Benefits Are Great! Just Words On A Screen

    Outside hires - and I agree.
  5. Re-Raise

    Re-Raise Well-Known Member

    What do you expect to get when you are looking for someone to be on call for a couple of hours a day only when we need you.

    If you are lucky you might have a college kid on break or something but otherwise there isn't much to choose from.

    Just hope they show up when we need them!!
  6. New Englander

    New Englander New Member

    These are helpers who get what $8.50 an hour? No set schedule. No guarantee of hours. Most times they will be asked to drive to a new area to meet another driver if they want more hours, off the clock and on their own gas. Pretty much forced to run our packages off while we sit in a warm truck waiting for them.

    What do you expect? I'm sure they were left with the same impression from you.
  7. But Benefits Are Great!

    But Benefits Are Great! Just Words On A Screen

    Ah, another member of the "Fantastic Four". Was almost a logical, well thought, meaningful post, till the end there. You do not disappoint.
  8. New Englander

    New Englander New Member

    Who's the smart one fearing for the company over some seasonal driver helpers?

    The sky is falling!
  9. evilleace

    evilleace Member

    UPS has been using helpers for awhile now and the company is still around.
  10. Box_Junkie

    Box_Junkie Member

    At my center helpers make $12.88/hr this year. Also, we are having alot of trouble getting enough helpers. I guess the HR people are actually calling back the people who didn't show for the first helper orientation in the hopes they'll show for the second.
  11. dannyboy

    dannyboy From the promised LAND

    helpers i understand. they are here today, gone tomorrow. the better ones get put on the list for call backs.

    my fear is the people that are actually hired as an employees. you know, the ones that after being here for a year or so that still dont have a clue.

    like if he is full time, part time, a bonafied driver and the list goes on and on. and from what i read, we still keep them on. and cant figure out what his pay is, how much he should be taking home.

    that is what scares the hell out of me.

    Last edited: Nov 18, 2008
  12. Re-Raise

    Re-Raise Well-Known Member

    I 'll take a UPS part-timer as my helper any day. You know they understand the pace of a UPS job and they are going to show up.

    Outside hires tend to think it is cool to ride around in the big brown truck and wave at their friends.

    And if they find out it is more work than they thought they might just say screw it and leave you hanging on a day with morw than you can get done alone.

    I always told my helpers if you are thinking about giving up that is fine but you are going to tell me.
  13. finaddict

    finaddict Member

    A bit of advice from a vet. Use them long and hard. A good helper is worth his weight in gold. Others suck ass and cost you time. I refused helpers for the longest time and was forced to use one just so the guy/gal got a call and didn't quit. You're not going to make bonus at Christmas so just suck it up, get a helper, run two hrs over time and get a decent check until new years. Hell, my helper my first year on delivery was getting over 40hrs! UPs pisses away money at Christmas, might as well spread the wealth.
  14. But Benefits Are Great!

    But Benefits Are Great! Just Words On A Screen


    And it's Bonafide
  15. dannyboy

    dannyboy From the promised LAND

  16. writer

    writer Preoad Supervisor

    They may also think about leaving you hanging on a busy day if they are treated like :censored2::censored2::censored2::censored2:.

  17. New Englander

    New Englander New Member

    First you have to understand something. They can put 400 stops on me. I don't care this year.

    I am only going to do what I can do in 11 to 12 hours depending upon what they want us working to this year. Nothing more nothing less.

    If my helper quits.....not going to bother me. I'll actually be happier.

    Can't finish all my deliveries? Not going to bother me. There always tomorrow. I'm not getting stressed out this peak for my kids sake.
  18. writer

    writer Preoad Supervisor

    I don't have to understand anything. I was responding to what someone else said.

    However, I do agree with your sentiment and if more would respond this way to loads of crap being put on everyone, things would change.

  19. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    I've never had an "inside" helper.

    Most of my helpers have been adequate. I think that's the best you can hope for, and I think a lot of that depends on YOUR attitude. I try to have fun out there. I try to make it fun for my helper, too. People having fun will work harder.

    One "bad" helper that stands out in my mind didn't want to get out of the truck in the rain. He didn't understand that the packages have to get delivered, rain or shine. I took him back to his car and told him to go home. UPS rewarded him for this by having him go help deliver a mall the next day.

    Two really "good" helpers stand out in my mind. One was a young girl in great shape who wanted to work fast, and could do so all day.
    One was a guy just out of the Air Force. Same thing. In great shape, and could work hard all day.

    All in all, the good far outnumbered the bad.
  20. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    How "great" was her "shape". I had a girl helper once that lived on my area. After peak was over she invited me over to her house and made me lunch. It was innocent (we were both married) but it was kinda uncomfortable. She was a good helper though.