Driver Survey Total Service Plan

[ThePackageDeli]

Thanks to the union, I now wear golden handcuffs. I'm stuck doing monkey work because the pay is unrealistically high compared to other jobs in the same industry. They should have never made this a high paying job. They should have sold it as an entry level unskilled uneducated job option. If I wanted $100k/yr, I should have went to school. Now, if I ever want to leave I'll never find a job making as much $ and I'll effectively have zero skills to offer the job market...
Interviewer: "Tell me sir, why do you think you'd be a good fit for this position?"
Me: "Uh, um.. I pick up box and set down box really good for many years."

Haha

 

[Wilson1397]

Thanks to the union, I now wear golden handcuffs. I'm stuck doing monkey work because the pay is unrealistically high compared to other jobs in the same industry. They should have never made this a high paying job. They should have sold it as an entry level unskilled uneducated job option. If I wanted $100k/yr, I should have went to school. Now, if I ever want to leave I'll never find a job making as much $ and I'll effectively have zero skills to offer the job market...
Interviewer: "Tell me sir, why do you think you'd be a good fit for this position?"
Me: "Uh, um.. I pick up box and set down box really good for many years."

Haha

Let me get this straight………You’d rather make less money so you can quit??……smh

 

[burrheadd]

Let me get this straight………You’d rather make less money so you can quit??……smh

Wtf is he thinking

 

[Wilson1397]

Wtf is he thinking

Not quite sure.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Probably the best supervisor job in the company though. I can't imagine corporate coming up with some ridiculous metrics for car wash that they would have to enforce.

Watch Netflixs on your phone, read magazines, do puzzles, etc for 5.5 hours every night. Takes a special person for the job.

 

[Red Devil]

Thanks to the union, I now wear golden handcuffs. I'm stuck doing monkey work because the pay is unrealistically high compared to other jobs in the same industry. They should have never made this a high paying job. They should have sold it as an entry level unskilled uneducated job option. If I wanted $100k/yr, I should have went to school. Now, if I ever want to leave I'll never find a job making as much $ and I'll effectively have zero skills to offer the job market...
Interviewer: "Tell me sir, why do you think you'd be a good fit for this position?"
Me: "Uh, um.. I pick up box and set down box really good for many years."

Haha

This “problem” you find yourself in is 100% your own making

 

[Thebrownblob]

Thanks to the union, I now wear golden handcuffs. I'm stuck doing monkey work because the pay is unrealistically high compared to other jobs in the same industry. They should have never made this a high paying job. They should have sold it as an entry level unskilled uneducated job option. If I wanted $100k/yr, I should have went to school. Now, if I ever want to leave I'll never find a job making as much $ and I'll effectively have zero skills to offer the job market...
Interviewer: "Tell me sir, why do you think you'd be a good fit for this position?"
Me: "Uh, um.. I pick up box and set down box really good for many years."

Haha

Every day I get on brown café and think I’ve seen the dumbest post ever, and here we are we have a new dumbest post ever. And they’re not golden handcuffs, they’re furry handcuffs so get it right.

 

[eats packages]

This job if anything is great for saving enough money to make a midlife career change. Go back to college without sweating over debt.

15 years is enough to make a million.

 

[ThePackageDeli]

This job if anything is great for saving enough money to make a midlife career change. Go back to college without sweating over debt.

15 years is enough to make a million.

Amen. That's my thought exactly.

 

[AKCoverMan]

That's not what I'm talking about -- on the subject the practice here is you must work 7.5 hrs paid to keep your guarantee. They don't want to hand out more than 30 'freebie' minutes of pay. If you get a light dispatch and can't make it last they require you to ask for extra work.

Ok that sucks.. is that in your supplement? If I’m done at six hours (rare but it has happened) I certainly am not going to beg them to redispatch me. Someone is sitting in the office seeing that I am done. Heck they should have known before I even started the day that I was light... plus out of long habit from pre EDD, DIAD 3 rookie days I still send a message from last stop advising “finished work eta Outback Center xxxx”. Not required anymore but I’ve always done it. If I get back to building and punch out thats 8 hours.

 

[AKCoverMan]

It's funny to watch in our building (125) routes T-S how 15-20 drivers race through their day in order to punch out prior to 5 and we have another 15-20 drivers filing 9.5s weekly. When I ask why the dispatch can't be evened out to reduce the excess overtime, I'm told the grievance money comes out of a different pocket. Each management segment seems to care only about their numbers and not the over all company or heaven for bid the labor agreement.

Yes. This is what drives be nuts.. like back at the hub where we have a preload.. I remember trying to tell a preload Supe how they destroy drivers day if they load like crap and his reply was it didn’t matter because driver OT didn’t effect ”his“ numbers it was somebody else’s problem so as far as he was concerned just get the packages somewhere anywhere inside the right truck. After that it was my problem…

Also.. so much is reactive instead of proactive.. seen too many days where several drivers go home under eight then suddenly they figure out at 8pm that one or two routes arent gonna finish someone finishing just under 9.5 gets sent to help while others are home on 2nd beer.

 

[AKCoverMan]

I don't pay over $1,200 a year in Union dues for scabs to take away my overtime

Here’s the problem… we get handed OT and say “we’re working too much” but then we also complain when OT goes away!

I know I’m painting with broad brush….everyone Is different. But it seems that way sometimes doesn’t it?

 

[AKCoverMan]

Driver's over the age of 55 have to recite the DOKs weekly and have a eye exam every 6 months.

Hey! A lil respect for us senior drivers!!!

Now where did I leave my walker….

 

[AKCoverMan]

Yeah and not allowed in their trucks until start time ..way too many dinosaur runners working off the clock.

No my car is also my locker and my shop steward office. We’re a tiny center by ups standards….

But no company work before start time for sure.

 

[AKCoverMan]

Seniority has its privileges

What I do for young guys is volunteer to take layoff days when there is not enough work for all the bench warmers!

 

[AKCoverMan]

PT car wash supervisor says it's not our job to clean the package cars. Go figure.

I mean, isn’t that literally your job title?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Here’s the problem… we get handed OT and say “we’re working too much” but then we also complain when OT goes away!

I know I’m painting with broad brush….everyone Is different. But it seems that way sometimes doesn’t it?

Nobody's ever happy.

 

[AKCoverMan]

I'm stuck doing monkey work because the pay is unrealistically high

First and foremost..your not stuck. I’m sure someone in line behind you will take your job In be happy to have it.

But take a look at our company‘s income statement. UPS brings in billions and billions of dollars in revenue and even after paying our industry leading wages and benefits…paying pilots and paying off management (gotta have em or nothing happens) and everything else we still pull down fat fat profits. All delivered by the employees of UPS.

I work hard and take pride in taking care of my customers... I feel I earn my $100k a year. I disagree that the pay is “unreasonably high”.

 

[Whither]

Ok that sucks.. is that in your supplement? If I’m done at six hours (rare but it has happened) I certainly am not going to beg them to redispatch me. Someone is sitting in the office seeing that I am done. Heck they should have known before I even started the day that I was light... plus out of long habit from pre EDD, DIAD 3 rookie days I still send a message from last stop advising “finished work eta Outback Center xxxx”. Not required anymore but I’ve always done it. If I get back to building and punch out thats 8 hours.

One of my stews burned through his resi route on a rare light day during that first Covid summer. Barely had 6 hrs on the clock, punched out with code 06 (now they've disabled the option to switch pay codes in our boards -- guess they have to edit air drivers' timecards? -- and of course from time to time you still have to hold them honest to the guarantee). Mgmt doctored his timecard; he went into the office the next morning and settled it, got his guarantee. But from then on the "agreement" has been at least 7.5 hrs on the clock to keep your guarantee. I'm not sure if the local has officially blessed it or not, and of course it is rare that you'd be able to skate much sooner than 7.5 hrs anyway, so it's one of those minor issues that slips through the cracks. I'll try and remember to ask a stew or the BA soon.

There's no language that I know of in the Central that directly addresses the issue. I have, however, sat idle for 15 or more min a few times waiting for responses to my "Finished work" message. And the responses never came, so I messaged again "No response for 15 min so I'm bringing it in" and got punched out close to 7.5 hrs on the nose. Got my messages printed out just in case. Each time I've kept my guarantee uncontested.

 

[AKCoverMan]

I have, however, sat idle for 15 or more min a few times waiting for responses to my "Finished work" message.

Well.. I send the finished work msg at last stop. Takes me about 15 mins plus PM time in building…if still no reply I’m done.