Brownslave688
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Drug test
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CoolStoryBro
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People who use drugs need jobs too
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Frankie's Friend
Guest
They test for sugar concentration...thus diabetes.
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Frankie's Friend
Guest
Management?
UnconTROLLed
perfection
If someone's drug use is putting people at risk at work, or in the public, then yes I definitely welcome drug testing and possible discharge. That applies to management weenies as well. Regardless, many people take up the SAP and come back, eventually.
542thruNthru
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I agree that if someone is putting people in danger then something should be said. Personally I would inform my steward or BA about the problem and ask they inform this person of their options for help.
The OP in my opinion is looking for people to be fired for minor accidents knowing they probably use on their off times. (I don't approve personally but as a union member I try not to bring reproach against another member)
If he would have started a thread that seemed more genuinely concerned. I would understand where he is coming from. For instance if you would have said. "Why doesn't the company drug test these drivers that are clearly under the influence of some narcotic!"
I feel he's bitter about something else and wants people to pay. Though I may be wrong and that's why I pointed him to the contract for info.
El Correcto
god is dead
This is just my opinion.
I don’t think the company would drug test you after an accident, regardless of your sobriety. They’d let the police do that if they felt it was necessary.
If I was running a trucking company I would drug test you only if you showed up stoned, drunk or rumored, because you are a liability.
After an accident though I would be trying to cover my ass and blame the other driver for causing the accident not trying to prove my company was at fault and my driver was
ed up behind the wheel.
542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
This is just my opinion.
I don’t think the company would drug test you after an accident, regardless of your sobriety. They’d let the police do that if they felt it was necessary.
If I was running a trucking company I would drug test you only if you showed up stoned, drunk or rumored, because you are a liability.
After an accident though I would be trying to cover my ass and blame the other driver for causing the accident not trying to prove my company was at fault and my driver was
Makes sense but every company I know other then UPS (and maybe FedEx) where they drive a company vehicle does a drug test after every accident.
El Correcto
god is dead
I would say it depends on the accident and whether they are trying to prove you were sober. Most trucking companies I know of other than fedex and ups will only drug test you for liability reasons or government regulation.
Especially in a fatality crash incident, they are trying to wiggle out of that civil and legal lawsuit as best they can.
My experience with this issue is hearing a lawyer talking about companies dragging their feet to produce a drug test and trying to sweep it under after a crash. One of the drivers ended up having cocaine in their system and it was a slam dunk in determining who was at fault.
So I unno maybe that’s just a
ty example or maybe par for the course.
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Frankie's Friend
Guest
So you think it's ok to drug test someone because of a rumor? Gossip?
You know there's protocol for management to suspect and test someone of being impaired due to drug and or alcohol usage right?
Unless you are in feeders, that is a blood/sugar test
Package car drivers are not tested for drugs unless there are special circumstances
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Not for pkg car.... only feeders.
Yep.
They test it right in front of you....
Probable cause or a DOT reportable accident.
They are testing you for sugar not drugs.
barnyard
KTM rider
There is a huge difference between the test done for the DOT physical and a random drug test. During a random drug test, you will be asked to initial several forms saying that you saw your sample divided into 2 containers and the correct labels put on them. You will also be asked to empty your pockets and leave the toilet without flushing when you are done.
I have had 1 DOT physical that was also a random drug test, the rest were checking for diabetes. I have had at least 6 random tests. 3 were the 2nd summer I was in feeders. The 3rd time, my boss laughed when he handed me the slip and the nurses at the clinic were all, "Hey barnyard, how are you?? Been too long since out last visit." Good times.
I have had 1 DOT physical that was also a random drug test, the rest were checking for diabetes. I have had at least 6 random tests. 3 were the 2nd summer I was in feeders. The 3rd time, my boss laughed when he handed me the slip and the nurses at the clinic were all, "Hey barnyard, how are you?? Been too long since out last visit." Good times.
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Johney
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I have never been tested for drugs during my DOT physical. I have been ran-domed a time or two though.
Turdferguson
Just a turd
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
You'll know if it is a drug/alcohol test.
The test they do for sugar, is when they just stick that little litmus paper stick
in and then compare it to a small chart.
The only time I was.... was for the pre-screen for going into feeders.
barnyard
KTM rider
Exactly my point. If you are not sure, it was not a random test. You cannot mistake a drug test for anything else.
