Dump Keter Now!

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X SAFETY

Guest
We have been using Keter since 1995, has anyone seen any good come from them. All I have seen is a lot pain and anxiety form management and employees. Does anyone know what the total cost of Keter audit is? Its time to get back to real safety training. Dump the Keter man.
 

tups

Well-Known Member
Dump Keter Now??? But Why???? We all need a safety audit slammed in our faces right in the middle of peak, don't we? It's been almost 3 months since those clowns been in our building, so I'd imagine they'll be back soon.
 

RockyRogue

Agent of Change
We all need a safety audit slammed in our faces right in the middle of peak, don't we? It's been almost 3 months since those clowns been in our building, so I'd imagine they'll be back soon.

Clowns, indeed. All these morons do is slam safety audits in people's faces and mess up the operation. They also bring stress nobody--management OR hourly--needs when you're getting you A%$ handed to you! -Rocky
 

brett636

Well-Known Member
From what I gather reading this forum Ketter was the answer to keeping UPS from getting fined millions by OSHA.
 

alister

Well-Known Member
From what I gather reading this forum Ketter was the answer to keeping UPS from getting fined millions by OSHA.
its cheaper to pay Ketter than it is to pay osha. I wish it was cheaper to fix the problem than it was to pay osha or ketter.
 
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X Safety

Guest
Keter is now owned by Liberty Mutual. Sounds like a conflict of interest. The insurance company does the audit on the people and buildings they insure. You fail and the costs go up.
 

VTBrown

Well-Known Member
Keter is now owned by Liberty Mutual. Sounds like a conflict of interest. The insurance company does the audit on the people and buildings they insure. You fail and the costs go up.

Conflict of interest for an insurance company to want to take a look at WHY they are paying so many claims?

Please.....
 
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Safety

Guest
Actually this could be more then a conflict of interest, it could be a violation of the corporate settlement agreement signed with OSHA back in 1995. In that agreement UPS was to contract with an outside vender to complete audits to insure compliance with OSHA. Liberty Mutual has been processing claims for UPS as a self insured company for decades, as well as doing safety audits and employee observations to reduce risk in the work place. Now that Keter is under the Liberty umbrella this could void them as a truly independent auditor. I would not be surprised if Keter is replaced when their current contract expires in 2008.
 

mulligan

mulligan
Keter audits are actually controlled by UPS upper management. I should say the content of the audits. I have had Keter auditors tell me that UPS's submissions to the audits are actually stricter than what OSHA requires.
Blame upper management, don't get on your local mangement.
 

finaddict

Well-Known Member
The company requires I know 5 seeing habits, a 10 point commentary, 8 keys to lifting and lowering, 5 keys to preventing slips and falls, and a Safe Work Method (SWM) review. Well, all the above are printed and given to us on two 3 1/2" by 5 1/2" cards. I keep them on the sink in front of the "throne" and review them between pinches. :crying: Not too tough.:tongue_sm I had to memorize 168 pages of useless military trivia to make SGT at my previous job. :confused:1 (Pretty good selection of smilies by the way)
 
F

Former Member

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"Has any building passed??"


The only people who pass are the morons who take it home as homework.
 
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