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Stick to that plan and get out of Fedex. Fedex is a graveyard of people with degrees that got comfortable. You'll be disappointed if you stick around too long.No, I'm doing this package delivery work now while I'm young and still enjoy it. When I get my degree I'll either try to move up in Fedex or UPS or find something else. I have no plans to be a 55yr old still jumping out of trucks. no way.
What he said!!Stick to that plan and get out of Fedex. Fedex is a graveyard of people with degrees that got comfortable. You'll be disappointed if you stick around too long.
I wanted to transfer from Tyler, TX to Cleveland, TN. Mgr and senior mgr told me I couldn't transfer because there was a hiring freeze and only mgrs and swings were being allowed to make lateral moves. Two things: I had a signed offer letter and I checked JCATS. My senior had posted 2 FT courier positions at our sister station in Longview and there were plenty of other FT courier postings. So I sat down at the computer and filed a detailed GFT. Next day my senior called me on my cellphone and said "Good news, the hiring freeze has been lifted!" Our district director even had me call him to explain, with a lot of tap dancing, what had just happened. And they asked me if I could go ahead and withdraw the GFT. I was literally getting my rear end kissed. I couldn't withdraw as it turned out, but HR was able to do it for them. Point is, don't believe anything about fall guys, etc. They're all in it together, and will tell you whatever they think they can get away with. You should file a GFT, it's your money, your right, and they're counting on you being Mr. Nice Guy so that they can continue to take advantage of you. Those mgrs in Tyler? Both eventually fired for other things. Seen way too many like them that always hang themselves if you give them enough rope. File the GFT and see just how fast they correct this.Yeah, I'd like to raise a total sh-t storm about it but there's a manager that I want to look out for (and the senior basically told me he'd be the fall guy).
And this is why I want to leave Express, I busted my ass as a part timer, getting BZ's, accolades, saying yes to anything. Now when it was my turn to ask for something back, Fedex didn't deliver.
Bang on!Stick to that plan and get out of Fedex. Fedex is a graveyard of people with degrees that got comfortable. You'll be disappointed if you stick around too long.
I'm not familiar with the earn and learn program, I'm going to school with a GI Bill so tuition isn't an issue.
And I'm aware UPS is hard work, I've seen the inside of an UPS 19 footer in the morning before. I'm also aware I'm working for a company that sets me up for failure everyday and can't seem to give me what is rightfully mine.
I wouldn't say couldn't. More like wouldn't. Most seasoned couriers get comfortable with the FedEx workload and don't have the mindset to do the UPS delivery workload. But for those that are "motivated" it is very doable. It really depends on what you want and what you are willing to sacrifice to get it. If you are young, and that's a relative term, with a strong work ethic and a desire to make more $ and benefits, I'd say go for it.Well very few seasoned Express drivers could ever do the UPS version, very few have experienced(or could handle) a bricked out P1000, and having to run 24SPORH for 10+hrs on road.
If there's a problem making service on a particular, eat the lates and request a check ride. I can't understand why people complain about being 'setup to fail' but do nothing about it.Of course, I know it won't be perfect there. But it will be better than a company that sends its drivers out knowing they can't make P1 service and then looks the other way when drivers falsify. and don't forget the "extra time" BS. Oh and I'm a swing with a signed offer letter that does swing work yet I haven't seen a single penny of swing pay.
I would have been on the phone after the second paycheck, if it wasn't corrected immediately. On the plus side, you'll get a nice backpay check.Offer letter states as of Sept XX 2016 I'd be getting paid at a swing rate. All my paychecks still have me at my courier rate, which of course is less.
I've never heard of a Tuesday-Saturday swing driver. Wheel driver yes, but not a regular swing.I've been told I'll be getting back pay from when my effective swing start date. I was taken off my route after the interview and have been doing swing work since. All I know about the offer letter is there was a conflict between managers about moving me to M-friend or keeping me Tues-Sat. The ball was dropped by management.
For what it's worth. The other day at least one analyst down graded UPS and pretty significantly. The reason? The failure on UPS part to grow out it's capacity fast enough to keep up with demand. But once they do catch up given that it's a model of corporate efficiency this cobbled together holding company called Fedex might just have to consolidate fast and furious or there might just be a huge gap between it and UPS. If they do the Smith's aren't going to let anything or anybody get in their way.Stick to that plan and get out of Fedex. Fedex is a graveyard of people with degrees that got comfortable. You'll be disappointed if you stick around too long.
Don't discount the brains at FedEx. There's a reason that for moving everything to the orange fedex logo. Some things are pure speculation but I find it hard to believe the change is just a fashion statement.For what it's worth. The other day at least one analyst down graded UPS and pretty significantly. The reason? The failure on UPS part to grow out it's capacity fast enough to keep up with demand. But once they do catch up given that it's a model of corporate efficiency this cobbled together holding company called Fedex might just have to consolidate fast and furious or there might just be a huge gap between it and UPS. If they do the Smith's aren't going to let anything or anybody get in their way.
Yep . Something big is coming it could be brutal and very seldom is it a good deal for contractors and or bottom level employees. They always take the brunt. What we learned the hard way at Ground that change is the only constant and nothing's binding.Don't discount the brains at FedEx. There's a reason that for moving everything to the orange fedex logo. Some things are pure speculation but I find it hard to believe the change is just a fashion statement.
For the OP I wouldn't worry too much about the future of either company. I would caution against going to UPS. They have too many incentives to stick around, higher wage, better benefits etc. he should take his degree and get in whatever field that is. In the long run he'll probably be happier. You don't want to get used to the paycheck and wake up 15 years down the road with grown children you hardly saw because you were hauling boxes until 8pm everyday. With an education he should only stay in the industry if he's in management and even then I'd use it as an experience stepping stone to something better.For what it's worth. The other day at least one analyst down graded UPS and pretty significantly. The reason? The failure on UPS part to grow out it's capacity fast enough to keep up with demand. But once they do catch up given that it's a model of corporate efficiency this cobbled together holding company called Fedex might just have to consolidate fast and furious or there might just be a huge gap between it and UPS. If they do the Smith's aren't going to let anything or anybody get in their way.
Cover his ass or not, they have to pay you what the offer letter says.
Yeah, I'd like to raise a total sh-t storm about it but there's a manager that I want to look out for (and the senior basically told me he'd be the fall guy).
If they spell out pay and duties in an offer letter, are you saying they're under no obligation to honor that?They don't "have" do anything in the offer letter.
Still trying to give financial advice? I would rather listen to Bernie Madoff than a hack like you that THINKS he know everything about finance. Better stick to something like playing with paper dolls. You got an erection several months ago because some one downgraded FDX stock. Meanwhile it is still sitting pretty in the mid $190 range. Shows what you know. NOTHING Meanwhile UPS stock is just above the 52 week low and way below the 52 week high.For what it's worth. The other day at least one analyst down graded UPS and pretty significantly. The reason? The failure on UPS part to grow out it's capacity fast enough to keep up with demand. But once they do catch up given that it's a model of corporate efficiency this cobbled together holding company called Fedex might just have to consolidate fast and furious or there might just be a huge gap between it and UPS. If they do the Smith's aren't going to let anything or anybody get in their way.
To be fair Bernie Madoff probably knows quite a bit about the financial markets.Still trying to give financial advice? I would rather listen to Bernie Madoff than a hack like you that THINKS he know everything about finance. Better stick to something like playing with paper dolls. You got an erection several months ago because some one downgraded FDX stock. Meanwhile it is still sitting pretty in the mid $190 range. Shows what you know. NOTHING Meanwhile UPS stock is just above the 52 week low and way below the 52 week high.
To be fair Bernie Madoff probably knows quite a bit about the financial markets.
You stupid SOB. Can't you read? The young man was wondering if he would be better off at UPS. What I was pointing out was that several weeks ago one analyst downgraded the stock of UNITED PARCEL SERVICE!. You're so blinded by your absolute devotion to your beloved Fedex that when a person takes note of what one analyst had to say about a competitor your paranoia is such that right away you go on the offensive when all I was doing was pointing out what challenges might await an entry level UPS employee. I apologize for not first considering the fact that someone like you wouldn't have enough brain activity to understand the point that was being made.Still trying to give financial advice? I would rather listen to Bernie Madoff than a hack like you that THINKS he know everything about finance. Better stick to something like playing with paper dolls. You got an erection several months ago because some one downgraded FDX stock. Meanwhile it is still sitting pretty in the mid $190 range. Shows what you know. NOTHING Meanwhile UPS stock is just above the 52 week low and way below the 52 week high.