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XEQaF

Well-Known Member
But we’ve already discussed that. Nobody believes Ground driver is a career. It’s not the model so what’s the point in griping that it doesn’t have career like compensation?
If that mentality changed and the driver was treated like he was a valued member of the operation and not just a mule for hire to be beaten and put out to pasture, you could build a long term relationship. Not necessarily about the dollars you pay either
 

Cactus

Just telling it like it is
Who here has claimed driving for Ground is a career? There’s a bunch who want it to be. Not even sure if they know why they want that.
Well if you don’t mind a revolving door of drivers then I don't either since I have no dog in the fight. It’s really shameful that FXG can’t provide some sort of affordable health insurance for a job that’s physically demanding.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Well if you don’t mind a revolving door of drivers then I don't either since I have no dog in the fight. It’s really shameful that FXG can’t provide some sort of affordable health insurance for a job that’s physically demanding.
It’s what we learn to deal with. Get folks for a decade and they move on.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Here's the irony of it all. It's an industry that is based on commitments . Commitments on the basis of precision, timelines, reliability etc. At the same time however it's a company that is doing everything possible to divest itself of all it commitments to the people that it is charging with task of fulfilling those commitments.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Here's the irony of it all. It's an industry that is based on commitments . Commitments on the basis of precision, timelines, reliability etc. At the same time however it's a company that is doing everything possible to divest itself of all it commitments to the people that it is charging with task of fulfilling those commitments.
Nothing new there. Everyone hates centralized power until they have it.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Nothing new there. Everyone hates centralized power until they have it.
It's not about centralized power. It's about ......" Here, you cover my back and do what will benefit me but don't expect me to do the same for you".

You talk about using up the labor of a guy for a decade then just dispose of him dumping him back out into the economy while expecting some other guy to look after him. And with the practice seemingly expanding in no time at all you've got an entire generation of ageing, uninsured, under skilled people out there who are far more dependent on social programs and at a far earlier age and in a far greater level of need than what has been the norm in the past.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
It's not about centralized power. It's about ......" Here, you cover my back and do what will benefit me but don't expect me to do the same for you".

You talk about using up the labor of a guy for a decade then just dispose of him dumping him back out into the economy while expecting some other guy to look after him. And with the practice seemingly expanding in no time at all you've got an entire generation of ageing, uninsured, under skilled people out there who are far more dependent on social programs and at a far earlier age and in a far greater level of need than what has been the norm in the past.
I’m for universal healthcare.
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
True but why should turnover get bad in the first place?

"Bad turnover" is in the eye of the employer. There's turnover in every line of work. If whatever rate of turnover isn't causing problems for an employer, there's no reason for him to increase pay to reduce it. Why spend good money to fix something that isn't a problem?
 

XEQaF

Well-Known Member
"Bad turnover" is in the eye of the employer. There's turnover in every line of work. If whatever rate of turnover isn't causing problems for an employer, there's no reason for him to increase pay to reduce it. Why spend good money to fix something that isn't a problem?
Increases can be negotiated on bonuses, performance, and to keep up with cost of living inflation whatever the national average is 2%. I just believe that if you develop a good team, that understand they are valued, turnover won't be an issue where you have to increase dollars to attract people. If you're a contractor with deep pockets you should look at investing in a benefits package that will help retain good people too
 

floridays

Well-Known Member
Here's the irony of it all. It's an industry that is based on commitments . Commitments on the basis of precision, timelines, reliability etc. At the same time however it's a company that is doing everything possible to divest itself of all it commitments to the people that it is charging with task of fulfilling those commitments.
Quite possibly the smartest thing you have said here, and you backed into it. I don't think you have any idea what you just said.
 

floridays

Well-Known Member
He texted me Sunday and I told him to take another day and we’d discuss it Tuesday morning.
It'd be nice if his buddies said they would see you Tuesday as well.

Exactly what is your contingency?
Will you fire them all?

Remember where you've been, think of the lesser than you.
Are you going to take him back on Tuesday?
Yes or No
Your mind is already made up, Will you prove yourself a forgiving person as you've been forgiven or will you show him you're the man?
Simple questions, I know you've already plotted your path.

Till Tuesday voices carry
 
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