Fedex Pal Labels

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by brownmonster, Aug 19, 2011.

  1. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    I see Fedex ground is using Pal labes almost identical to ours. Either they bought the same computer program or they were so enamored with the efficiency of our operations they copied it exactly.
  2. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Several years ago, I heard that UPS was also in the business of selling it's package sorting technology. Perhaps FedEx is also a customer.
  3. Coldworld

    Coldworld Taking it all back.....

    FedEx has been using these labels for some time now...both ground and express. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if some ex UPS mamager who was hired by FedEx and "suggested" this idea for their own system. I'm sure over the years there have been hundreds of UPS management go to FedEx an spill the beans about UPS.
  4. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    What's a PAL label?
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Preload Assist Label

    Gives the loader the lane number and shelf location where the pkg should be loaded. Has the tracking number, date and time it was SPA'd and center slic. This is helpful when you can't scan the BC and need to use the Find BC feature in our DIADs.
  6. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Oh. Vision labels. Now if only we could get pre-loaders who could load by number....
  7. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    ...that seems to be an industry-wide problem.
  8. thessalonian13

    thessalonian13 Active Member

    UPS sold them the technology for lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$
  9. browniehound

    browniehound Well-Known Member

    Yes, that was/is a great idea. However, now they have the red "PAL stamp" instead of the label. Apparently it eliminates a bunch of jobs, but causes a handful of problems. Its a red stamp that simply has the HIN # but zeroother info for the driver. The PAL had the tracking # so we could obtain info from the label, the stamp doesn't have this #.

    I don't know how the preloader reads this red stamp. It spells misloads all over it. Another negative is the stamp does not show the address so the preloader can't verify the PAL label to the address label thus preventing misloads like he is trained to do.

    Ya know, our preload has been fighting the misload problem since PAS/EDD was implemented (before this I got about 3 misloads every year and now its 3 every day) and then they intoduce this red stamp to save money. Sorry it causes more problems in the end that we would be better off paying the SPA employee $10/hour for 4 hours instead of 50 drivers $46/hour at OT to deliver their 3 misloads at the end of the day. What am I missing here?
  10. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    Go back to load charts!!
  11. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The kids they hire today can't read a PAL label--how would you expect them to decipher a load chart?

    The system would work much better if these kids were given more time to do their jobs.
  12. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    More time is a given. We were allowed 15-16 preloaders(if they would hire anyone) when I was on preload and we started at 3:30, 3:00 on Avon day. Now, they have 12, if they don't allow people without time the day off. They start at 4:30. We have more volume.

    Load charts leads to area knowledge. You can't just throw anyone on those routes "with a map and a sandwich" as my on-car would say.
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    With PAS/EDD you can.
  14. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    That's why my on-car loves sandwiches.
  15. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    I heard they took there time implementing the system like six months and it runs like clockwork. To bad we didn't do that.
  16. upsman68

    upsman68 Active Member

    Great idea. I guess we should go back to paper records too
  17. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    I guess you don't pay attention.
  18. HomeDelivery

    HomeDelivery Well-Known Member

    i've seen them on ground, but not on HD; HD has a more simpler, yet effective system
  19. browniehound

    browniehound Well-Known Member

    Amen! I got about 1 misload every 6 months with the load chart. Now with PAS/EDD I get a minimum of 2 every day. Is the probblem the system or the worker? I say system because I NEVER had a misload before PAS. Now, they are just spreading like wildfire.
  20. pretzel_man

    pretzel_man Well-Known Member

    The misload problem can be fixed pretty quickly if the local management really cared....

    1) Insist that drivers record every single misload in the DIAD. This give visibility to the situation and improvement can be tracked.

    2) Work with every loader on methods, ensuring they place every package where the handling instruction says. Make sure all packages are loded so handling instructions are visible.

    3) Supervisors audit the loads, checking that the right package is in the right car, and right shelf

    4) Follow up daily with the loaders on the misload report from the DIAD.

    5) Look for and correct any AMS alias problems or DPS dispatch problems.

    The above is just back to the basics methods, and I've seen it work many times.