Got in accident.....

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by UPSguy23, Jul 10, 2006.

  1. UPSguy23

    UPSguy23 New Member

    Hey, I'm a new member of this board and I was involved in an accident today, my fault, really stupid now that I look back on it. Trying to make a gradual left turn in a parking lot around a parked car, "thought" I could make it and unfortunately it rubbed up against the car, prob. less than 500 dollars worth of damage to the car, just a foot long by maybe 1/8 of an inch scratch by the tailight housing. I don't know why I did it now that I look back on it, I made my seniority last month, so I've only been driving for 2 months and to have something like this happen so soon is just really discouraging, almost like I doubt my driving skills now.... Before this happened I was bonusing on the route I was on today, things with management was great because I didn't mind getting done with my route at 6 and going back out to help until 830 almost every night, now I have a feeling things will change. I'm not trying to wimp out or anything but now I have to do the most humiliating thing in my life and give a safety pcm tomorrow because of my dumba$$ mistake. Sorry felt like I needed to get this off my chest
  2. yeldarb

    yeldarb Member

    That is weird they are making you give a safety pcm. In our center, they wouldnt dream of making someone do that. The Union would be all over that.
    Follow the methods, work safe, dont hurry. It is probably better you get in an accident early in your driving days, than later. I had an accident within 3 months of my packet, and now am over 5 years safe. Treat it as a lesson learned. When in doubt, stop and get out.

    BSUUPS New Member

    Good luck with the PCM...and don;t doubt your driving skills. Just remember the seeing habits and 10 pt are some safety slogans that might help in the future...Space on all six sides,,and when in doubt..stop and get out...
  4. Ms Spoken

    Ms Spoken New Member

    PCM tomorrow??? Oh BS that is what the safety team is for. UPS can not single you out in front of your peers.
  5. UPSguy23

    UPSguy23 New Member

    Yeah that's basically the same discussion I had with my on-car sup, I just felt like such a dimwit that I felt like it was a bad dream that I hadn't woken up from yet. Yeah and like you said it will be a BIG lesson learned, I don't think I'll be going into anymore parking lots for a while, impossible for the route but I'll be looking for safe alternatives.....
  6. Hey ups23, be sure to get a copy of your accident report, contractually your entitled to that, keep in your own files forever. Find out your Local jurisdiction practice on progressive levels of discipline, that way you know for certain where you stand. If you feel you are being retaliated against for you accident, pursue Article 37 violations with your steward. It would be wise to find out if other drivers who have been involved it an accident are forced to give testimonials at pcm's. If not you'll have past-practice argument in your favor along with unfair and unequal treatment to boot. LEARN YOUR CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS, I can't emphasize this enough. I see nearly all new drivers contractal rights trampled because time isn't taken to learn them. Management will always take advantage of ignorance, buy no means should you ever ask management to interpret the contract, they rarely know what they're talking about and they'll nearly always be wrong. Closing thought: Making mistakes is what makes us human, recognizing our mistakes and correcting them whenever possible makes us better humans.
  7. speeddemon

    speeddemon Guest

    we all make mistakes, just try to learn from them.
  8. upsdude

    upsdude Well-Known Member

    I’ve been driving 19 years and we’ve always had drivers give PCM’s to discuss their accident or injury. Think about it, you end up talking about it with most everyone anyway. Giving the PCM is also a way of getting support from your peers. I’d also rather my peers hear what happened from me as opposed to management telling the story.
  9. dannyboy

    dannyboy From the promised LAND

    A lot og good replies have already been given.

    One thing you must remember, you are human. You will make mistakes and errors in judgement. As your years with UPS progress and your mind is formatted toward safety, hopefully they will be less and less.

    Sometimes having a very minor bumpin is a good lesson and wake up call for a driver that is not focused on safety.

    What ever the issue, learn from it, dont let it get you down, and go out there and do your job like you already know how.

  10. sendagain

    sendagain Member

    Look on the bright side, you are one of the drivers who reports his accidents. At least you are responsible for your actions.
  11. disneyworld

    disneyworld Active Member

    It's a sign. GET OUT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  12. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Do NOT give a PCM. It is not your job. Leave it to the company safety brown-noses.
  13. cashmen

    cashmen Member

    :censored2: Happens:w00t:
  14. brown67

    brown67 Active Member

    I had two small accidents like yours my first year. 13 years later I'm accident free. A lot of drivers have little accidents like yours their 1st year. It takes time to learn to drive those big brown trucks. My advice is to give yourself lots of room.
  15. UPSguy23

    UPSguy23 New Member

    Thanks for the replies and support, today was a lot better day. Had to have the supervisor ride along with me and with him watching every move he said he was surprised that I got in the accident that I did with the way I drove(brand new on-car sup). It was a nice confidence booster yet it was still embarassing having to have a supervisor watch my every move, and believe me it will be a big lesson learned, just have to take it one day at a time and be more safe than I was yesterday. Thanks
  16. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    ....and try to remember that you get paid by the hour....not by the box.
  17. Hey tell me this I am 10 days into driving bumped a overhanging tree on a residential road and the upper mirror on the pass side of the truck popped out and shattered the sticky tape holding the mirror on wasn't even used to hold it on. I have pictures... Boss made me report it once I got back and then he said to decide between preload or air driver that my full time days are over since I had a wreck... is this the way UPS is??? Just wondering if anyone has any feed back on this
  18. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    ouch. I don't know how effective the pcm concept is but it seems like it might not be a bad idea to talk about it like you did here and what you learned from it. Gives the human touch to learning. Is management giving any discipline in this case or is your pcm as bad as it gets?
  19. disneyworld

    disneyworld Active Member

    Usually.If you get in an accident during your 30 days,you're done. But I think you can try again in a year(not sure)
  20. browniehound

    browniehound Well-Known Member

    You shouldn't have reported this as an accident. I don't know any drivers that report just a crack in the mirror. You should have just wrote it up on the DVIR and it would have been fixed by the next morning.