guns

[menotyou]

So, when a robber is holding a gun on you, rational decisions are easily made? Ok, Dr. PhiTOS.

 

[texan]

I love arm chair liberal quarterbacks opinion on a gun being held on someone and what they should have done.

 

[cachsux]

Being a monkey? Probably poo'd itself.

 

[texan]

1. Have you ever had a pistol held to your head? I have.
2. Have you ever been fired upon by an enemy of the US as determined by a Congressional approval, and the
President / Commander in Chief ? I have.
3. Have you ever been deployed to a hostile environment to defend the known interest of a Democract President and Congress, yet
performed your duty as directed without question? I have.

I am not better than you, but speak from experience. EVIL will only be stopped by force and a deterent of force.

 

[Lue C Fur]

"Why would you let your buddy put a hotdog up there?"

 

[over9five]

TOS is all about the pussification of America. Don't stand up to a robber. Cower down and give him all your money.
There is NO WAY you can know if after you give them the money they won't shoot you anyhow. This clerk saw an opening, and took that scums gun away. I think he showed remarkable restraint in not shooting them all with their own gun. This guy's a hero.

Crime pays because America has become pussified. Criminals know we're supposed to cower down with our tail between our legs, give them whatever they want, and call the police so they can show up later and take a report.

I'm proud of the clerk seeing that opportunity and taking it. He might have given them the money and wound up dead.

Boycott the store and start a PayPal donation site for the clerk. I'd send him a reward.

 

[Lue C Fur]

TOS is all about the pussification of America. Don't stand up to a robber. Cower down and give him all your money.

Maybe TOS is from France...

 

[texan]

"The preparation for war is essential for the preservation of
peace." - Geo. Washington during his 1st State/Union address

 

[cachsux]

" Mr Henderson claims he was given no choice but to act to save his own life but it was company policy not to provoke, chase or engage a robber.
He explained that one of the robbers told her accomplice to shoot him as she stood behind the register.

Disarmed: One of the three suspected robbers was urged to shoot Mr Henderson but stalled long enough for him to physically disarm her and save himself

'I don’t care if it were a bigger person, smaller person or a child. If you have a gun in your face, if you're struggling with somebody you're going to bite, kick, scratch, pull,' Mr Henderson told Fox10-TV. "


Try and keep the situation calm is one thing. But once intent to harm is expressed or implied it's game on. I would shoot every one of them in the face if that was the price of going home that day.

 

[texan]

"Aggression unopposed becomes a contagious disease."

JIMMY CARTER, speech, Jan. 11, 1980

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[moreluck]

Maybe TOS is from France...

the Coneheads are from France too !

 

[tourists24]

1. Have you ever had a pistol held to your head? I have.
2. Have you ever been fired upon by an enemy of the US as determined by a Congressional approval, and the
President / Commander in Chief ? I have.
3. Have you ever been deployed to a hostile environment to defend the known interest of a Democract President and Congress, yet
performed your duty as directed without question? I have.

I am not better than you, but speak from experience. EVIL will only be stopped by force and a deterent of force.

Amazing how having a gun pointed at your face can change the way someone views things. It certainly did in my case. I can absolutely see why TOS would have the view she does. Mine were similar at one point. One day changed my life. The situation would definitely dictate, but if I have any say in the manner if a gun is ever pointed at me ever again one of us will not walk away alive. If I am at work I am unarmed. If I get within hands reach, one of us is going down. At home I keep one stored away. If I am able to get to it then one of us will not leave my home alive. TOS can call it fear or whatever she wants. I call it being prepared just in case. That eliminates my fear.

 

[texan]

We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve
the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian
national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as
well-funded. Barack Obama

 

[texan]

We have real enemies in the world. These enemies must be found. They
must be pursued and they must be defeated. Barack Obama

 

[wkmac]

We have real enemies in the world. These enemies must be found. They
must be pursued and they must be defeated. Barack Obama

We should know as we created them all!

 

[over9five]

Small excerpt from my one of my favorite books:

"The press, academe, and the law enforcement establishment preach: Do not fight back! On the street, in your home, on the high seas, anywhere, anytime. Do not fight back! You may be hurt.

Of course you may be hurt. You may be killed.
The only honorable response to violence is counter-violence. To surrender to extortion is a greater sin than extortion, in that it breeds and feeds the very act it seeks to avoid"



To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth by Jeff Cooper

Highly recommended

 

[tourists24]

We should know as we created them all!

As long as we remain friendly with Israel we will automatically be their enemy. But since you mentioned it, if we apologized repeatedly do you think they would like us then?

 

[texan]

Amazing how we have the ability to create mens hearts. and the evil within them.
I did not America was here with Attila The Hun, Ivan the Terrible, Nero, and Torquemada.

 

[wkmac]

"The preparation for war is essential for the preservation of
peace." - Geo. Washington during his 1st State/Union address

In that advice you should also include his Farewell Address.

Observe good faith and justice towards all nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all. Religion and morality enjoin this conduct; and can it be, that good policy does not equally enjoin it - It will be worthy of a free, enlightened, and at no distant period, a great nation, to give to mankind the magnanimous and too novel example of a people always guided by an exalted justice and benevolence. Who can doubt that, in the course of time and things, the fruits of such a plan would richly repay any temporary advantages which might be lost by a steady adherence to it ? Can it be that Providence has not connected the permanent felicity of a nation with its virtue ? The experiment, at least, is recommended by every sentiment which ennobles human nature. Alas! is it rendered impossible by its vices?
In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. Hence, frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests. The nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, has been the victim.
So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.
As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. Such an attachment of a small or weak towards a great and powerful nation dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.
Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.
The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.
Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people under an efficient government. the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.
Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?
It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world; so far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it; for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements. I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs, that honesty is always the best policy. I repeat it, therefore, let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense. But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them.

George Washington Farewell Address thanks to the Avalon Project of Yale University Law School

Sounds to me like Washington would look with displeasure at our current foreign policy and even how we dole out foreign policy dollars or diplomatic welfare for short. Hmmmm, that has a familiar sound to it like say someone who is running for President. Does this mean Washington is the nutty old uncle too?

 

[tourists24]

In that advice you should also include his Farewell Address.



George Washington Farewell Address thanks to the Avalon Project of Yale University Law School

Sounds to me like Washington would look with displeasure at our current foreign policy and even how we dole out foreign policy dollars or diplomatic welfare for short. Hmmmm, that has a familiar sound to it like say someone who is running for President. Does this mean Washington is the nutty old uncle too?

You got that right about Washington WK...... how do you think he would react if he could come back today and simply look at the way our government is now run? lol