yes but im sure cornel west would say this is a more recent phenomenon last few decades of commercialism excess. 1960s had an "excess of democracy" in america, the present doesnt compare to back then, or maybe the new deal wouldve been another era, i dont know.
I Knock Over Your Block Tower, a Metaphor For Socialism
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the media is increasingly dividing us from agreeing on anything.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Some people are willing to risk life and limb to keep their families from starving. Doesn't mean that fact should be exploited, just a reality. Most that flock to unsafe working conditions do so because they don't have much freedom to do anything else.
A lot of that is speculative. It may simply be the case that there is no way to separate flows of capital from state power. The sooner we realize that, the sooner we can head off the worst abuses stemming from that fact.
Ok.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Simple solution for that.
im not sure thats a solution.
why do we have so little freedom?
Marxists? Nah. Marx would've liked the tower. He said that capitalism was the greatest economic system that existed to date, accomplishing more great things than all the previous systems combined in a period of less than 100 years, and a necessary prerequisite for any good socialism might bring about.
Non-Marxist Socialists? Anarchists? Angry anti-capitalist college kids? Yeah, probably.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
That's a matter of perspective. So little freedom compared to a made up fantasy world where everything is always perfect? I couldn't say.
Tom MacDonald
Max E. Pads
Ricky, in most historical socialist countries, so much as questioning the leadership was a one way ticket to hell.
This one lets you rail against it ad nauseum, and does nothing to silence you.
you just said we dont much freedom to work safe jobs. why is that?
the glass is half empty
no idea i havent heard what hte solution to the problems of religion are. probably yes but theres limits on what htey can do i suppose.
the guys who mix religion with teh wars on teh middle east, religion with big money are heretics
There was an old saying that was something like, in the Soviet Union, you can criticize your boss but not your politicians, in the US you can criticize your politicians, but not your boss.
Luckily we're Teamsters, so we can do both.
Maybe you need to reevaluate your expectations.
i think thats the problem but its not my expectations. everyones has been artificially lowered.
Ever notice that your stance is always that the entire world is wrong but you?
That no one else has a clue, but you have all the answers?
That's your first sign, Ricky.
i never said i have all the answers and i quite frequently say i dont know like i just did in response to a relgious question but maybe know where to look for some answers.
you could argue people are almost as confident that capitalism is the right system. my expectations have been lowered too but they are at least higher than htey were.
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