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It will be fine

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What falsehoods has he stated as fact? Give me an example or 2. Let's talk about it .
I don’t listen to Shapiro much anymore. Listened for awhile but got tired of his act. The latest vid where he defended Trump posting a video that starts with a White Power chant is a fine example though. He starts with the premise that Americans should have no expectations for what the President says publicly. He made a bunch of excuses for Trump without any evidence for them. It was a few minutes of pure garbage to excuse the President posting White Nationalist content.
 

vantexan

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I don’t listen to Shapiro much anymore. Listened for awhile but got tired of his act. The latest vid where he defended Trump posting a video that starts with a White Power chant is a fine example though. He starts with the premise that Americans should have no expectations for what the President says publicly. He made a bunch of excuses for Trump without any evidence for them. It was a few minutes of pure garbage to excuse the President posting White Nationalist content.
Trump didn't hear the White Power chant when he posted it and took it down shortly after posting. But no one can make mistakes.
 

Tom MacDonald

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I don’t listen to Shapiro much anymore. Listened for awhile but got tired of his act. The latest vid where he defended Trump posting a video that starts with a White Power chant is a fine example though. He starts with the premise that Americans should have no expectations for what the President says publicly. He made a bunch of excuses for Trump without any evidence for them. It was a few minutes of pure garbage to excuse the President posting White Nationalist content.
I'm not educated on the instance you're talking about. But I listen to ben shapiro and he holds trump accountable quite a bit


Ben Shapiro doesn't like trump's Twitter rants and he didn't like the social media summit for example
 

Tom MacDonald

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This is exactly the point I’m making. You believe Shapiro’s framing without evidence and use it to excuse the abhorrent behavior of the President.

I'd like you to watch this video that was removed by twitter from the President's account. Please tell me what you think of it.

You seem to think that Trump is a white nationalist, and that's okay you can have an opinion. I'm just trying to dig into the evidence that swings either way
 

vantexan

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This is exactly the point I’m making. You believe Shapiro’s framing without evidence and use it to excuse the abhorrent behavior of the President.
That was all over conservative media, not just Shapiro. You guys give Biden a pass on everything yet act like 74 yr old Trump couldn't possibly have missed that(yet call him incompetent on everything else).
 

It will be fine

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I'd like you to watch this video that was removed by twitter from the President's account. Please tell me what you think of it.

You seem to think that Trump is a white nationalist, and that's okay you can have an opinion. I'm just trying to dig into the evidence that swings either way
Pure drivel. It’s a crappy Trump speech with sad music behind it. I don’t see a poorly written speech as evidence or lack there of his racist leanings.
 

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That was all over conservative media, not just Shapiro. You guys give Biden a pass on everything yet act like 74 yr old Trump couldn't possibly have missed that(yet call him incompetent on everything else).
Some believe in higher standards for official proclamations of the President. You’re ok with White Power coming from the President. I’m not. That’s the difference between us.
 

Tom MacDonald

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Pure drivel. It’s a crappy Trump speech with sad music behind it. I don’t see a poorly written speech as evidence or lack there of his racist leanings.
What parts of the speech dont you like?

I particularly liked "healing not hatred, justice not chaos"

You cant dismiss the entire thing without providing details. Sorry it doesn't work like that
 

Tom MacDonald

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Some believe in higher standards for official proclamations of the President. You’re ok with White Power coming from the President. I’m not. That’s the difference between us.
Also, I wonder... since it was a "crappy" trump speech. What does a good trump speech look like to you? Have any links?
 

It will be fine

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What parts of the speech dont you like?

I particularly liked "healing not hatred, justice not chaos"

You cant dismiss the entire thing without providing details. Sorry it doesn't work like that
It’s drivel. Stephen Miller is probably the worst speech writer any president has ever had. He writes garbage platitudes without any meaning. Trump delivers them with no emotion. They are play acting the role of President.
 

bacha29

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Political talk show firebrand and like all the others after he makes his money he'll quietly fade away.
While his mother is in the television media business and has no doubt provided valuable assistance when it comes to learning how to capture an audience you can't keep saying the same things over and over again and maintain a following . Especially if you've come from a privileged background like Shapiro.
 

rickyb

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My fellow Americans, we have to save our country. Evil prevails when good men do nothing. We (YOU) are the sleeping bull. Wake up and gouge the heart of their greed.


youve got it all wrong.

the country was in disorder when people were not protesting. what did you think the people in govt and corporations were doing? theyve been creating disorder in the country for decades. the last time america had a serious social movement for justice was vietnam war protests, civil rights, consumer rights, womens right, enviro rights. thats 50 years ago.

if people are destroying property at protests, you can make the argument they are trying to either create disorder or restore order. you can say the same thing about the police brutality that happened at the protests which was illegal as well, and to be fair thats not up for dispute. if you exclude property destruction, then the protests are about restoring order.
 
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