Inflation Is A Blessing In Disguise For Next Contract

olroadbeech

Happy Verified UPSer
With this massive inflation union members will have good leverage going into the coming contract.

Either you get some good raises to keep pace or maybe just lose a little in buying power.
Or you get good raises and inflation slows or prices back pedal and you come out way ahead.

Hope you people get a good contract.
 

Shift Inhibit

He who laughs last didn't get it.
With this massive inflation union members will have good leverage going into the coming contract.

Either you get some good raises to keep pace or maybe just lose a little in buying power.
Or you get good raises and inflation slows or prices back pedal and you come out way ahead.

Hope you people get a good contract.
Thank you for caring about us. Appreciate you. Hopefully our union leaders don’t roll over at the negotiating table. 🤞
 

542thruNthru

Well-Known Member
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Its_a_me

Well-Known Member
With this massive inflation union members will have good leverage going into the coming contract.

Either you get some good raises to keep pace or maybe just lose a little in buying power.
Or you get good raises and inflation slows or prices back pedal and you come out way ahead.

Hope you people get a good contract.
Actually, massive inflation and low unemployment almost always leads to a recession within 2 years of it happening. This very well could be the case next summer and would cause the company to more aggressively seek to get union concessions.

The low unemployment could theoretically help UPS starting wages---but that would admit how badly the union has done as a union contracted wage should never compete with a minimum wage: even at a starter position.

The leverage the union should take into negotiations is

2017 UPS profit $50.60B
2018 UPS profit $53.29B up 5.31% from 2017
2019 UPS profits $56.377B up 5.79% from 2018
2020 UPS profits $64.05B up 13.61% from 2019
2021 UPS profits $71.939B up 12.32% from 2020

2022 UPS gross profit for the Q1 ending March 31, 2022 was $17.932B, up 4.02% from 2021

Think of that next time someone tells you about Hoffa's best contract ever.
 

olroadbeech

Happy Verified UPSer
Actually, massive inflation and low unemployment almost always leads to a recession within 2 years of it happening. This very well could be the case next summer and would cause the company to more aggressively seek to get union concessions.

The low unemployment could theoretically help UPS starting wages---but that would admit how badly the union has done as a union contracted wage should never compete with a minimum wage: even at a starter position.

The leverage the union should take into negotiations is

2017 UPS profit $50.60B
2018 UPS profit $53.29B up 5.31% from 2017
2019 UPS profits $56.377B up 5.79% from 2018
2020 UPS profits $64.05B up 13.61% from 2019
2021 UPS profits $71.939B up 12.32% from 2020

2022 UPS gross profit for the Q1 ending March 31, 2022 was $17.932B, up 4.02% from 2021

Think of that next time someone tells you about Hoffa's best contract ever.
Timing is everything.....
 

silenze

Lunch is the best part of the day
Look at the past contract. Our 1 dollar raises never even covered inflation. We are making less every year. The cola is a joke. We need over 4$ a year just to break even. Inflation is screwing the blue collar workers.
 

silenze

Lunch is the best part of the day
Inflation is killing company earnings. Inflation is tanking the stock market. Inflation is killing the working class.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Look at the past contract. Our 1 dollar raises never even covered inflation. We are making less every year. The cola is a joke. We need over 4$ a year just to break even. Inflation is screwing the blue collar workers.
So how should COLA be negotiated?
 

Its_a_me

Well-Known Member
Well at least we're not paying towards our pension or health care right now
FALSE.

COMPLETELY FALSE.

Hoffa's incompetence in 2013 at the negotiating table made this statement untrue starting in 2018 even when ignoring the hidden costs of healthcare that have pushed onto workers.

First, it allowed the company to offload it's healthcare onto the Central States Health and Welfare Plan fund which is now Teamcare. Under the company's financial statements that year it was listed as a Liability Transfer and UPS had “removed a significant liability from our balance sheet,”that would “control the volatility of healthcare inflation [i.e., increasing health costs], and removes the risk associated with providing future retiree healthcare.” In layman's terms the company gave the union money upfront and will make minimal payments to justify cuts (which will be sharper as time proceeds) to workers’ benefits in the future which will be needed as healthcare costs continue to inflate.

Plus other costs were hidden: more than a few because benefits were reduced. For example: can't get the name brand prescription drugs if a generic alternative is available (before it was your choice)--well you can but you have to pay for it. Same thing happened if your doctor wasn't in their network. And the formulary prescription drug list keeps making more and more medications "brand names" even if the total benefits of 1 pill aren't the same as the 3 generics the plan requires. Oh and good luck having to call about billing on the brand name that isn't available in generic but was denied at the pharmacy as being covered. On top of that they added penalties like loss of TeamCare Family Protection Benefit if you see an out-of-network provider for non-emergency medical care.

Secondly, then there's the costs not hidden: Starting in 2018 an annual plan deductible was introduced. $100.00/$200.00 (single/family).

Even when you could get coverage continued to get worse. It got to be having to wait 1 year for an individual and 1.5 years for a family before regressing to 9 months waiting now. Then there's the dropping coverage on a weekly basis (one punch rule or the 225/400 hrs work in 3 months for others).

...and on the pension front: you are paying via hidden administrative costs that have risen (less money available). Request the paperwork you are legally allowed to and compare every year.


...now cue the usual we're better than others non-sense that doesn't apply as it ignores what is expected in the jobs.
 

100%

Well-Known Member
Actually, massive inflation and low unemployment almost always leads to a recession within 2 years of it happening. This very well could be the case next summer and would cause the company to more aggressively seek to get union concessions.

The low unemployment could theoretically help UPS starting wages---but that would admit how badly the union has done as a union contracted wage should never compete with a minimum wage: even at a starter position.

The leverage the union should take into negotiations is

2017 UPS profit $50.60B
2018 UPS profit $53.29B up 5.31% from 2017
2019 UPS profits $56.377B up 5.79% from 2018
2020 UPS profits $64.05B up 13.61% from 2019
2021 UPS profits $71.939B up 12.32% from 2020

2022 UPS gross profit for the Q1 ending March 31, 2022 was $17.932B, up 4.02% from 2021

Think of that next time someone tells you about Hoffa's best contract ever.

Those are not profit. UPS hasn’t ever made more than $12B profit in a year, and that was last year. You’re listing gross revenue, not profit.

Edit: regardless, they have truck loads of money for us.
 

Its_a_me

Well-Known Member

  • UPS gross profit for the quarter ending June 30, 2022 was $18.041B, a 3.3% increase year-over-year.
  • UPS gross profit for the twelve months ending June 30, 2022 was $73.209B, a 5.67% increase year-over-year.
  • UPS annual gross profit for 2021 was $71.939B, a 12.32% increase from 2020.
  • UPS annual gross profit for 2020 was $64.05B, a 13.61% increase from 2019.
  • UPS annual gross profit for 2019 was $56.377B, a 5.79% increase from 2018.
 
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