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[Turdferguson]

Yeah, I admit to having trouble with spelling sometimes...

Typically, I delete personal attacks but in this case and since I am the victim I'm choosing to leave it up for all to see.

Awwww. It was a term of endearment

 

[rickyb]

Would it be ok to note that you only attack Christian religions , despite the extremism of other religions?

when do u criticize christian extremists like bush, pence, kkk, etc??

 

[newfie]

Awwww. It was a term of endearment

Would hate to be your family, that kind of endearment is caustic.

 

[vantexan]

So even though the Church used the Spanish armies in their almost genocidal conquest of the new world . You don't want me to use them as an example

The Spanish armies were there for riches. The Church went along for the ride. The priests did not control the conquistadors. There's a great small city in Chiapas, Mexico called San Cristobal de las Casas. Named in part for Bartolome de las Casas, the first bishop of Chiapas. He was revered by the locals for protecting them from the government. There are plenty of other examples. Of course those that hate Christianity always twist it into something else altogether. Not that no one in the Church did anything wrong but there's no one size fits all blanket explanation for how the new world was colonized. Nor were there massive armies marching across Asia or Africa forcing people to convert. Frankly there's just no comparison between how Christianity was advanced verses Islam. And in today's world there's just no comparable extremist Christian comparison in scale with what Muslim extremists are doing.

 

[Turdferguson]

Would it be ok to note that you only attack Christian religions , despite the extremism of other religions?

Absolutely not, there is extremist in all religions. If there happened to be a Muslim , Hindu, or Jewish person on here claiming that there religion was the only true on and that all others were based on hate I would point out how full of crap they were too

 

[Turdferguson]

Of course those that hate Christianity

That right there is my issue with you. Not everything is so stark dude.
Not ALL Muslims are terrorist , not ALL illegal immigrants are criminals out to rape and murder. You make these broad sweeping statement and come off as a nut job

 

[vantexan]

Absolutely not, there is extremist in all religions. If there happened to be a Muslim , Hindu, or Jewish person on here claiming that there religion was the only true on and that all others were based on hate I would point out how full of crap they were too

Who is saying that? I don't agree with their religious views so in your mind I'm a hater. I am saying there's one religion out there attacking people, literally, all over the world for not practicing what they believe, and that one religion is Islam.

 

[Turdferguson]

Would hate to be your family, that kind of endearment is caustic.

Would hate to be your family with all the hate and narrow mindedness you you exhibit

 

[vantexan]

That right there is my issue with you. Not everything is so stark dude.
Not ALL Muslims are terrorist , not ALL illegal immigrants are criminals out to rape and murder. You make these broad sweeping statement and come off as a nut job

And apparently you have comprehension problems because I've never said or implied that they ALL do. What I am saying is there are enough bad apples amongst those that would immigrate here that we shouldn't let them in, by any means necessary, until we can vet them. Europe let in millions and now has huge violence, rape, assault, murder problems they didn't have before. Illegal immigrants in the U.S. make up 3.5% of our population but commit 12% of our murders. Amongst many other crimes. That doesn't mean they ALL do but enough to where we should deport every one who commits a crime and block the border completely from entry. If you disagree with that then I don't know what else to say to you.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Absolutely not, there is extremist in all religions. If there happened to be a Muslim , Hindu, or Jewish person on here claiming that there religion was the only true on and that all others were based on hate I would point out how full of crap they were too

Well said ... while I consider myself Christian (albeit a Jesuist), I do get tired of the self-centered view that most Christians adhere to. If I grew up in Israel, India or Saudi Arabia, I would probably detest their self-centeredness as well.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

You have claimed to have read two dozen books on religion. Correct or incorrect?
Correct

I consider that statement to be one that presents himself as one with some kind of knowledge on the subject. YES

When you are presented with written evidence, from the words of those you plead for, which aren't advantageous to your claims, you immediately need time to research.
I don't need time to research, I've already expressed my views and knowledge.
These two twits wanted me to drop everything I'm doing and answer their questions.
They can go themselves.
If they don't agree ... let them disagree.

You resorted to name calling, racist, bigot and then had to retreat to calling them simply ignorant.
I learned it from you.

You have claimed to have read two dozen books on religion. Correct or incorrect?
Correct

I consider that statement to be one that presents himself as one with some kind of knowledge on the subject. YES

When you are presented with written evidence, from the words of those you plead for, which aren't advantageous to your claims, you immediately need time to research.
I don't need time to research, I've already expressed my views and knowledge.
These two twits wanted me to drop everything I'm doing and answer their questions.
They can go themselves.
If they don't agree ... let them disagree.

You resorted to name calling, racist, bigot and then had to retreat to calling them simply ignorant.
I learned it from you.

 

[vantexan]

Well said ... while I consider myself Christian (albeit a Jesuist), I do get tired of the self-centered view that most Christians adhere to. If I grew up in Israel, India or Saudi Arabia, I would probably detest their self-centeredness as well.

I'm not one of those Christians who thinks he's got it all figured out. I went to Muslim countries. I went to Georgia, a country that's Eastern Orthodox, more specifically Georgian Eastern Orthodox, that's very xenophobic. I learned quite a bit. But I'm not going to capitulate to moral relativism. Liberal leaders in Western Europe who let in so many from a vastly different culture have forever altered their own. And there are those in the U.S. who are intent on forever changing ours. That's not a dog whistle, it's reality.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

I'm not one of those Christians who thinks he's got it all figured out. I went to Muslim countries. I went to Georgia, a country that's Eastern Orthodox, more specifically Georgian Eastern Orthodox, that's very xenophobic. I learned quite a bit. But I'm not going to capitulate to moral relativism. Liberal leaders in Western Europe who let in so many from a vastly different culture have forever altered their own. And there are those in the U.S. who are intent on forever changing ours. That's not a dog whistle, it's reality.

I agree with your modern day political analysis but your posts were about the religion of Islam when they should have been about Islamic Terrorists.

As a Christian/Jesuist, I don't like my beliefs and my religion to be thrown to the side and talk about my religious beliefs in terms of Eric Robert Rudolf, the KKK, the Westboro Baptist Church or any of the other wacky Christian based groups.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

That right there is my issue with you. Not everything is so stark dude.
Not ALL Muslims are terrorist , not ALL illegal immigrants are criminals out to rape and murder.
You make these broad sweeping statement and come off as a nut job

Nailed it!

 

[vantexan]

I agree with your modern day political analysis but your posts were about the religion of Islam when they should have been about Islamic Terrorists.

As a Christian/Jesuist, I don't like my beliefs and my religion to be thrown to the side and talk about my religious beliefs in terms of Eric Robert Rudolf, the KKK, the Westboro Baptist Church or any of the other wacky Christian based groups.

Except those nutjobs are marginalized. ISIS and Al-Qaeda can't grow without extensive Muslim support throughout the world. There have been numerous groups here in the States caught funneling money to them. Again, not all Muslims are terrorists. But a substantial number believe it's their duty to wage war on unbelievers. That's hundreds of millions, not a few thousand nuts.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

So even though the Church used the Spanish armies in their almost genocidal conquest of the new world . You don't want me to use them as an example

Don't think that's right Turdy ... I think it was the Spanish government that used the Catholic Church to help subdue the natives to the point of having them executed.

Regardless there was a hand and there was a glove.

 

[vantexan]

I agree with your modern day political analysis but your posts were about the religion of Islam when they should have been about Islamic Terrorists.

As a Christian/Jesuist, I don't like my beliefs and my religion to be thrown to the side and talk about my religious beliefs in terms of Eric Robert Rudolf, the KKK, the Westboro Baptist Church or any of the other wacky Christian based groups.

By the way, huge Muslim armies sweeping across North Africa, the Middle East, Central Asia, and Europe weren't Muslim terrorists. They were Muslims advancing the cause of Islam.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Except those nutjobs are marginalized. ISIS and Al-Qaeda can't grow without extensive Muslim support throughout the world. There have been numerous groups here in the States caught funneling money to them. Again, not all Muslims are terrorists. But a substantial number believe it's their duty to wage war on unbelievers. That's hundreds of millions, not a few thousand nuts.

Much better! You didn't attack the religion ... you attacked Humans.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

By the way, huge Muslim armies sweeping across North Africa, the Middle East, Central Asia, and Europe weren't Muslim terrorists. They were Muslims advancing the cause of Islam.

We never talked about that but I hinted when I said "in the last 2000 years".
When you look at the last 2000 years Muslims don't come close to the destruction and killing done by Christians.

I should have said last 1400 years but I am Jesus-centric.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Would hate to be your family, that kind of endearment is caustic.

Turd and Tony are good friends on here just like I am with both of them ... same way with Sporty and bbsam.

I doubt Turd would be that butt wholly with people he did not know.
But then again, the little turd might.