Islam

[Old Man Jingles]

You are either ignorant of history, or you’re downplaying your sides participation in genocide, torture, rape, slavery, etc.

The persecution complex is strong within you!

Blacks did it too!

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

You mean you're black and mad because he had the world handed to him? Here I thought you were just black.

That's ignorant.
Is your goal here to make a fool of yourself?

 

[vantexan]

Blacks did it too!

Muslims took over a million Europeans into slavery. Muslim pirates were taking U.S. sailors into slavery off the Barbary Coast. Jefferson had our ambassador meet with their sultan's representative in London I believe it was. When asked why they were doing this when the U.S. had done them no harm the rep told them it was their right under the Koran. Our resulting attack on Tripoli is referred to in the Marines' anthem.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

That's ignorant.
Is your goal here to make a fool of yourself?

Probably is ... I saw where he posted he wanted to be like you!

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Muslims took over a million Europeans into slavery. Muslim pirates were taking U.S. sailors into slavery off the Barbary Coast. Jefferson had our ambassador meet with their sultan's representative in London I believe it was. When asked why they were doing this when the U.S. had done them no harm the rep told them it was their right under the Koran. Our resulting attack on Tripoli is referred to in the Marines' anthem.

Black Moors on the shores of Tripoli?

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Probably is ... I heard him saying he wanted to be like you!

Do you hear voices often?

 

[vantexan]

Black Moors on the shores of Tripoli?

You tell me!

 

[BrownFlush]

big bad scary Islam
the abject horrors that have been perpetrated in the name of Christ
As a non-religious person, I’m horrified at both sides.

An Atheist recognizes abject horrors? Evil perpetrated? Big, bad and scary? Quite the ability for a non religious person to recognize good and bad.

Reminds me , just today , I drove by the new hospital " The Good Atheist ". They told me it was built by atheist and it would offer free medical care because they care about the good of humanity.
Drove around the block and there was the new orphanage . " The Atheist Home For Children '' The "good" atheist have done is just everywhere you look.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Do you hear voices often?

All the time!
You too!

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

An Atheist recognizes abject horrors? Evil perpetrated? Big, bad and scary? Quite the ability for a non religious person to recognize good and bad.

If you need religion in order to not be a POS, you're probably a POS.

 

[BrownFlush]

That's ignorant.
Is your goal here to make a fool of yourself?

You've opened your mouth so wide, you've left no doubt who the fool is.

 

[BrownFlush]

If you need religion to in order to not be a POS, you're probably a POS.

You've said that before. It's just not doing anything now.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

You've opened your mouth so wide, you've left no doubt who the fool is.

Ya, Monkeybutt, obviously.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

You've said that before. It's just not doing anything now.

I can't fix stupid, you're going to have to help yourself.

 

[BrownArmy]

Istanbul was Constantinople, overrun by Islam. Europeans fought hundreds of battles with Muslims across southern Europe. Muslim armies went as far north as southern Ukraine. It's not just Christians that fought them. You need to bone up on your history. Islam didn't spread by missionaries, it spread by the sword. We come down hard on what the Spanish did in the New World. Where do you think the Spaniards learned their brutality? Few countries suffered more under Muslim domination than Spain. Because Christianity is the dominant religion in the U.S. the nonbelievers want to believe it's evil and elevate anything at odds with it. But they're either ignorant or disingenuous about Islam's history.

You're still focusing on Islam.

As if Christianity wasn't also spread by the sword.

As an outside observer, I see both religions having an inherently peaceful message.

After all, the point is union with the divine, no?

However, it goes south rather quickly upon execution by the followers of either religion.

You and I could trade Bible and Koran versus for the next decade and we'd get nowhere - there are messages of peace and war simultaneously in both texts.

I just don't agree with you that Islam is the terror that you think it is.

History moves in waves. Don't equate Islam with the idiots that perpetuate violence in it's name, they'e not true Muslims.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

If you need religion in order to not be a POS, you're probably a POS.

I still think you should try religion ... you don't have to be a POS.
I know you have it ... deep, deep hidden well but I know you have it within you.

 

[BrownArmy]

An Atheist recognizes abject horrors? Evil perpetrated? Big, bad and scary? Quite the ability for a non religious person to recognize good and bad...

You seem to be confused about what Atheism is.

In either case, yes, I can assure you that I can differentiate between good and bad, and that I'm quite cognizant of abject horror when I see it.

I'm completely confident that I can be a moral person and live a moral life without believing in...whatever you believe in.

The fact that you believe what you believe, means only that.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

I still think you should try religion ... .

Why are you making the assumption I haven't 'tried' it?

 

[vantexan]

You're still focusing on Islam.

As if Christianity wasn't also spread by the sword.

As an outside observer, I see both religions having an inherently peaceful message.

After all, the point is union with the divine, no?

However, it goes south rather quickly upon execution by the followers of either religion.

You and I could trade Bible and Koran versus for the next decade and we'd get nowhere - there are messages of peace and war simultaneously in both texts.

I just don't agree with you that Islam is the terror that you think it is.

History moves in waves. Don't equate Islam with the idiots that perpetuate violence in it's name, they'e not true Muslims.

Show me the messages of war in the New Testament. I can say this forever, you just won't accept it, but anyone waging war in the name of Christ was not practicing Christianity. War against unbelievers is sanctioned in the Koran. Big difference. And true Muslims believe in jihad. You're apologizing for people who have waged war forever in Allah's name. The only reason they aren't conquering us now is superior firepower. But the terrorist attacks will never stop as long as hundreds of millions of Muslims believe they are required to destroy infidels.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

That's ignorant.
Is your goal here to make a fool of yourself?