Local 25 Teamsters borderline criminal act?

[BootsOnTarmac]

So what do you get for your $500.00 initiation fee plus $54.00 per month?
Your just part time at $11.00 per hour. Why is the union preying on the lower class, most likely, uneducated willing to work? For the initiation fee they have to work 45+ hours just to pay that. I bet the turnover is huge up to and beyond 31 days. Looks like just a money grab for the union, shameful.

 

[542thruNthru]

I have to admit $500 for initiation fees is ridiculous. Can someone explain why its.$500? I live in California and it's only $100 so I can't imagine it's because of property values or cost of living.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

What I have never understood is why is it the Unions interest to keep PT wages so low?

This thread is actually a perfect example of why the Union likes low PT wages.

If you made 500 dollars per new hire, or 54 dollars per month per employee you keep, it makes far more sense to keep the new people rolling through. If the working conditions are bad, and they get chump change, they'll quit on their own. And in walks another 500 dollars for the union.

My local doesn't charge that much. But we went through probably 4 dozen? ish people at my center over peak. That would be $24,000 paid to local 25.

If UPS actually kept part timers, the union would lose a lot of money. Nice that UPS and the union found common ground, huh? They both like to exploit part timers.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

What I have never understood is why is it the Unions interest to keep PT wages so low?

Residual income.

This thread is actually a perfect example of why the Union likes low PT wages.

If you made 500 dollars per new hire, or 54 dollars per month per employee you keep, it makes far more sense to keep the new people rolling through. If the working conditions are bad, and they get chump change, they'll quit on their own. And in walks another 500 dollars for the union.

My local doesn't charge that much. But we went through probably 4 dozen? ish people at my center over peak. That would be $24,000 paid to local 25.

If UPS actually kept part timers, the union would lose a lot of money. Nice that UPS and the union found common ground, huh? They both like to exploit part timers.

Low hanging fruit.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

What I have never understood is why is it the Unions interest to keep PT wages so low?

Ever see our leader beating his fist on the podium on tv and cussing the Republicans ("SOBs")
for screwing the blue collar workers?
Can't have it both ways.

I still say that the supes caught working should pay the dues for the month they did bargaining unit work in as well then.

 

[PT Car Washer]

I have to admit $500 for initiation fees is ridiculous. Can someone explain why its.$500? I live in California and it's only $100 so I can't imagine it's because of property values or cost of living.

In my RTW state the initiation fee for PT is like $20. I assume it is the same for FT. Most PT eventually do join and almost all FT join.

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

Does McD put into a pension? Does McD offer PT benefits without a premium?

Does McD bend you over with out lube and take your whole paycheck before Christmas when you are working as a seasonal helper?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I have to admit $500 for initiation fees is ridiculous. Can someone explain why its.$500? I live in California and it's only $100 so I can't imagine it's because of property values or cost of living.

It's in the Local's bylaws.... which are subsequently approved by the IBT.


It would take a motion to be made (and read) at 3 consecutive membership

meetings and then voted on by the members to change it.


That $500 initiation fee is steep, but applies to all new members.

Not just part-time UPS people. But, the Local dropped the ball on this.

 

[UPSER1987]

I'm here

So whatever happened with the employees in this local? What was the resolution?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

So whatever happened with the employees in this local? What was the resolution?

UPS says the union reinstated the payment plan after it collected all of the fees and dues. Because of the pending NLRB cases, the Teamsters had no comment.

I usually don't bash the union too much but this is just a scam

I-Team: Seasonal UPS Workers Had Almost Entire Paychecks Handed Over To Union

 

[PT Car Washer]

This thread is actually a perfect example of why the Union likes low PT wages.

If you made 500 dollars per new hire, or 54 dollars per month per employee you keep, it makes far more sense to keep the new people rolling through. If the working conditions are bad, and they get chump change, they'll quit on their own. And in walks another 500 dollars for the union.

My local doesn't charge that much. But we went through probably 4 dozen? ish people at my center over peak. That would be $24,000 paid to local 25.

If UPS actually kept part timers, the union would lose a lot of money. Nice that UPS and the union found common ground, huh? They both like to exploit part timers.

So is the Union in business to make a profit or to represent its members?

 

[over9five]

UPS says the union reinstated the payment plan after it collected all of the fees and dues. Because of the pending NLRB cases, the Teamsters had no comment.

What a snake move...

 

[BigUnionGuy]

What a snake move...

I would like to hope, it was some sort of clerical error.


Looking at their LM-2s.... it doesn't appear they need money.

(as some have suggested)

 

[Bubblehead]

UPS says the union reinstated the payment plan after it collected all of the fees and dues. Because of the pending NLRB cases, the Teamsters had no comment.

"The Teamsters" have had "no comment" since the story broke, long before any NLRB charges were filed.

The more time that passes with them saying nothing in their own defense, the more deafening it gets.

....while reflecting poorly on us all in the interim.

 

[cachmeifucan]

Hey I don't feel bad for the new hires who are getting the bonus out there. But it is definitely way to much. If they went to nlrb and file a wage claim form maybe that would help

 

[UnconTROLLed]

I don't understand how a clerical error of that nature "slips through".

 

[BigUnionGuy]

"The Teamsters" have had "no comment" since the story broke, long before any NLRB charges were filed.

The more time that passes with them saying nothing in their own defense, the more deafening it gets.

....while reflecting poorly on us all in the interim.

How the great and powerful "OZ" deals with it....

Is their business.


It's a poor reflection, on someone (TDU) trying to reform anything.

 

[Jkloc420]

i just dont understand the collecting of union dues from seasonal employees

 

[542thruNthru]

i just dont understand the collecting of union dues from seasonal employees

I can understand some dues but no way in hell should a seasonal employee pay initiation fees.

 

[Jkloc420]

I can understand some dues but no way in hell should a seasonal employee pay initiation fees.

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