Local 25 Teamsters borderline criminal act?

[brownIEman]

You mean the money that UPS was holding out on the union for employees for 2 years? That money? Believe the one sided news story all you want

Hmm, how would UPS hold out for 2 years on money from peak temps hired in October?
That's what this thread is about.

Expecting UPS to forward dues to a local for employees that won't be hired for another year and three quarters strikes me as a tad unreasonable.

 

[Boston25]

Hmm, how would UPS hold out for 2 years on money from peak temps hired in October?
That's what this thread is about.

Expecting UPS to forward dues to a local for employees that won't be hired for another year and three quarters strikes me as a tad unreasonable.

It is more than temp hires. There's more to the story than the news article is saying. I posted above there are workers currently working at UPS in Local 25 jurisdiction that hadn't had dues taken out cause HR kept failing to turn in dues applications. We had guys go down to the hall and pay the whole initiation fee up front because it wasn't being taken out by UPS.

 

[Bubblehead]

Right or wrong....

You can't argue, with results.


Teamsters Local 25 Charlestown Massachusetts

 

[Bubblehead]

Maybe....

You think Local Union autonomy is a bad thing ?

I do....in this instance, while continuing to assert that there are many other "autonomous" issues, like this one, that should be handled uniformly nationwide.


Because at the end of the day this not only gives Local 25 a "black eye", it also damages the public perception of the IBT, and the labor movement as a whole.



~Bbbl~™

 

[Bubblehead]

You mean the money that UPS was holding out on the union for employees for 2 years? That money? Believe the one sided news story all you want

It is more than temp hires. There's more to the story than the news article is saying. I posted above there are workers currently working at UPS in Local 25 jurisdiction that hadn't had dues taken out cause HR kept failing to turn in dues applications. We had guys go down to the hall and pay the whole initiation fee up front because it wasn't being taken out by UPS.

I tried to get you to answer this question in the other thread, to no avail, so I will try again:

....yet for some reason, in every story I have watched or read, "the Union has declined to comment"???

Are you disputing that as well?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I do....in this instance, while continuing to assert that there are many other "autonomous" issues, like this one, that should be handled uniformly nationwide.


Because at the end of the day this not only gives Local 25 a "black eye", it also damages the public perception of the IBT, and the labor movement as a whole.



~Bbbl~™

OZ

 

[Bubblehead]

OZ

I don't understand???

 

[Coldworld]

I don't understand???

Referring to the next election for teamsters president....

 

[Bubblehead]

Referring to the next election for teamsters president....

That would make sense, if it made sense, within the context of my quoted text???

 

[brownIEman]

It is more than temp hires. There's more to the story than the news article is saying. I posted above there are workers currently working at UPS in Local 25 jurisdiction that hadn't had dues taken out cause HR kept failing to turn in dues applications. We had guys go down to the hall and pay the whole initiation fee up front because it wasn't being taken out by UPS.

A wise man once told me, if someone in a relationship is treating you poorly for an extended time and you do nothing about it, after enough time it's not just the other person's fault any more. I would consider 2 years long enough to not just be UPS' fault anymore.

In just a couple weeks of the current issue, there is already an NLRB case number against the local. If UPS has been sandbagging the local for 2 years, what is that NLRB case number against UPS? Seems like the members would owe the local back dues and UPS would owe interest and penalties in a slam dunk case, if what you're claiming is true. So, what's the case number so we can look it up?

 

[Bubblehead]

A wise man once told me, if someone in a relationship is treating you poorly for an extended time and you do nothing about it, after enough time it's not just the other person's fault any more. I would consider 2 years long enough to not just be UPS' fault anymore.

In just a couple weeks of the current issue, there is already an NLRB case number against the local. If UPS has been sandbagging the local for 2 years, what is that NLRB case number against UPS? Seems like the members would owe the local back dues and UPS would owe interest and penalties in a slam dunk case, if what you're claiming is true. So, what's the case number so we can look it up?

All of that aside, and it's a series of good observations and questions, how does that justify the fleecing seasonal workers?

 

[wide load]

Anyone know how many seasonals were hired? News story said thousands.

 

[Yolo]

You mean the money that UPS was holding out on the union for employees for 2 years? That money? Believe the one sided news story all you want

A few teamsters being behind in union dues doesn't justify stealing an entire temp hire's paycheck. You belong in prison!

 

[Bubblehead]

Anyone know how many seasonals were hired? News story said thousands.

That seems high to me too, but then again I have no way of knowing.

I would "guestimate" near a thousand seasonals were hired in my local?

What number would make what Local 25 did acceptable for you?

 

[Skooney]

I have seen it corrected before.

I told you it was bull. No one was ever getting a dime back.

 

[Skooney]

It is more than temp hires. There's more to the story than the news article is saying. I posted above there are workers currently working at UPS in Local 25 jurisdiction that hadn't had dues taken out cause HR kept failing to turn in dues applications. We had guys go down to the hall and pay the whole initiation fee up front because it wasn't being taken out by UPS.

The article is about the seasonal temps that the local took money from. Stop trying to put lipstick on a pig. Your local ed up, and you should pay those people their money.

 

[wide load]

That seems high to me too, but then again I have no way of knowing.

I would "guestimate" near a thousand seasonals were hired in my local?

What number would make what Local 25 did acceptable for you?

Well, unfortunately we don’t have all the facts. I have a few questions of my own, that I’m sure will be answered in time. Until then I’d rather not speculate. Who classifies the employee as seasonal vs permanent?

 

[wide load]

The article is about the seasonal temps that the local took money from. Stop trying to put lipstick on a pig. Your local ed up, and you should pay those people their money.

Were they just seasonals that were charged?

 

[burrheadd]

Were they just seasonals that were charged?

Does it make a difference?

 

[wide load]

Does it make a difference?

Um yeah