Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Mart Man, Dec 7, 2018.
People at our building were having a good chuckle about it when it happened. It is the northeast though, just read some of the posts in this thread for a taste. Selfish and cold
And right now.... neither do you.
Regardless of whether you want to admit it BIrv the Local 25 agents and officers work very hard at representing the membership. Why don’t you tell everyone on here how you have been fired how many times? And who got you your job back every single time? If it wasn’t for the union your ass would’ve been canned a long time ago. But instead of being grateful you continue to come on here and bash the agents and the stewards in your building.
HAHAHAHHA I literally died laughing when I saw that.
In New England the buildings cannot be staffed so anyone that’s hired during that period is kept on as a permanent employee after peak.
New England supplement has language to allow part timers to work in feeders as a full time employee. It is the exact same thing as a TCD. That maroon an hour under should get his facts straight.
Do they have a choice to take any other pay rate? It's not like they can walk in and say "Ok, if I agree to pay dues, I get paid $14.00 an hour. However, if I opt out and want nothing to do with the union, I have to settle for $11.00". You get paid what the union negotiated for regardless of if you opt in or out. So, seasonals paying dues and initiation fees for something that has absolutely nothing to do with them.....in my opinion....is senseless, unless they are guaranteed a position after the "seasonal" period ends, and agree to stay with UPS. IMO, the way I'd handle that, is not charge them dues during the seasonal timeframe. If they stay on after seasonal time ends, then collect dues accordingly (as they will have made their 30 and or 60 day waiting period at that point anyhow).
it makes way to much sense
How many names are you going to come up with? This is exactly why you have been fired.
And now, the people he is accusing of conspiring with the company to have him
fired.... are the newly elected officials in his local.
Wonder how that's going to work out.
That's the first I've heard they could be reimbursed.
Either way, $500 is a crazy amount and is total money grab from the union since part-time turnover is so high. $500 for an off-the-street full-time hire would be reasonable but not for part-time employees who have already been sold out with two-tier wages and a long progression if they ever go full-time.
Yeah, it is shameless money grab and the vast majority of seasonals have no intention of staying at UPS or even another union job. It's generally cash for the holidays to make a kids Christmas brighter. Which really grinches up the cash grab that much more.
How would the local manage?? They might be broke
I’m amazed at his level of psychosis.
Bottom line it was a mistake, regardless of whose fault it was. But I'm curious, how did you come to that conclusion?
I would have an issue if they weren't up front about it, but that's not the case. I'm Local 25 and went through the new hire process. I distinctly remember signing an acknowledgement that I would be having initiation fees pulled out of my pay, and would have to contact the union to be reimbursed for that in the case that I didn't stay on as a permanent employee.
Furthermore, my local fights like hell for me and my coworkers and the New England Supplement seems well negotiated to me. I definitely get my money's worth. Try to find a comparable non- union job with the same pay, benefits and work rules. Good luck.
I can only assume that you conjured up this scenario as an employee in a Right To Work state?
Here, like in Local 25, seasonal employees at UPS have no choice to "opt-in or out".
Take the job and you "opt-in"....hence the controversy and this thread.
I didn't conjure it. I live in Pennsylvania - and I was given the choice to opt in or out when I was hired. Pennsylvania is not a right to work state - we are what's called at "at-will" state. I brought this up in another thread - then one in which the guy asked about leaving the union and all hell broke loose - and it seemed the proverbial light bulb kicked on for everyone after reading that question. People that work in my hub get the same payrate regardless of Union affiliation, and have the option to, like I said, opt-in, or opt-out.
Hahaha I was going to say sounds like the same guy!
Separate names with a comma.