Local 25 Teamsters borderline criminal act?

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Karma...

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one solution to the dues issue and lack of union membership would be for the company (ups) to either pay the initiation or perhaps a portion of the initiation.....consider that the percent of people that are union as steadily decreasing from almost 40 % to currently 6.2 %......what kind of organizing is that ?.....
 
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Karma...

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that brings up the point that due to the failures of unions to organize they will continue to languish downward.......diminishing in a slow spinning spiral towards the ground.....like a moth to the flame......
 
What'dyabringmetoday???

What'dyabringmetoday???

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Casca said:
one solution to the dues issue and lack of union membership would be for the company (ups) to either pay the initiation or perhaps a portion of the initiation.....consider that the percent of people that are union as steadily decreasing from almost 40 % to currently 6.2 %......what kind of organizing is that ?.....
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UPS loves being unionized so I'm sure they would be happy to cover monthly dues as well.
 
Wally

Wally

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Mart Man said:
Hello,

My name is Austin and I just recently started working as a seasonal part-time package handler for a UPS facility in Massachusetts back in late October. When I was hired the company had made it clear to me on my first day that the job was seasonal, however, I would still need to begin paying an initiation fee to the Local 25 Teamsters Union. The initiation fee is $500.

On my first day I was provided with union paperwork which I read thoroughly and signed off on. In the paper work it stated that the initiation fee was $500, however the Teamsters recognized that a part-time employee is financially unable to pay $500 upfront, so the fee was broken down into 15 and a half weeks of 32$ payments.

To mine surprise, when I received my pay check today it stated $0. At first I thought it was a mistake, but then other employees started expressing similar concerns saying either the majority or the entirety of their paycheck had been drained, even their attendance bonuses. In my paystub it clearly stated that the entire amount of my paycheck was deducted for Union dues.

Now this is where it gets interesting. Upon everyone receiving their paychecks, a mob began to form in the middle of the building, all employees upset that their entire pay checks had been drained due two union dues. It also appeared that no one seemed to know why this had happened.

Upon speaking with management, they had assured us that they had no idea that this was going to happen and that for the last 20 years an event like this had never taken place before. They then went on to say that union dues had always been taken out in incremental amounts until completed, never has employees checks been completely drained.

Management then referred employees affected by this issue to their union stewards. Now the mob switched their attention from management to the stewards standing by. The stewards seemed to have no idea that this was going to happen and could offer no explanation. Some of them even tried to shift the blame from the Union to UPS and Human Resources. After the crowd calmed down, we were given the Union Halls number which I immediately picked up my phone and called.

A women picked up and assured me that she had been receiving calls all day regarding the issue and could do nothing for me but take my name and number and refer it to the business rep. She said that the contract states that after 31 days the union has the right to take any remaining dues in full. I then proceeded to tell her that in the paper work I signed states the fee would be broken down into payments. To that, she had no comment. I then asked her who in the Union made this decision and she said that she did not know, but she felt terrible for those employees.


Now, the reason why I am on Browncafe today is to see if anyone else from another Union did or has experienced a similar issue before? It seems to me almost criminal to take someone's entire weeks pay check at the beginning of the month when bills are due, just a few weeks before Christmas, especially when they are seasonal employees and will most likely never be able to take advantage of the benefits. For me, it wasn't as much of a big deal because I have a full-time job during the day and only picked up this job to help make some additional income for the holiday season and get in shape. I saw one employee crying because she had children at home to feed and was living paycheck to paycheck.

I also did a little research on Google and found an article from November 2018 stating that the Local 25 teamsters union was $5B in debt for their pension plan. Maybe there is a link between this event?

Please no trolls!
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Initiation fees are a cash cow for the locals. It is also an incentive to not care about part-timers. The turnover rate is welcomed.

Plenty of cuts these locals could make.
 
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Karma...

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since ups is mainly part time , they get full time benefits, and pay full time dues and initiation fee why not have the part timers pay half the dues, half the initiation and a lesser amount of benefits while part time...if they go full time the part timers would pay full time......I am surprised that the present system has not been modified..
 
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PT Car Washer

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Casca said:
since ups is mainly part time , they get full time benefits, and pay full time dues and initiation fee why not have the part timers pay half the dues, half the initiation and a lesser amount of benefits while part time...if they go full time the part timers would pay full time......I am surprised that the present system has not been modified..
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The lower wage PT jobs subsidize the higher wage FT jobs. Also the healthier younger PT subsidize the old fat FT drivers health care.
 
Boywondr

Boywondr

The truth never changes.
Yolo said:
Hundreds of thousands of dollars were stolen from my brothers and sisters right before Christmas. Local 25 refused to return any of the stolen money until the NLRB forced them too. I'm not laughing. I'm disgusted .
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I'll say it for your other retired brother: yawn.
 
Boston25

Boston25

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542thruNthru said:
Not that we need help with anti O threads.. ;)

But I agree this thread has more than ran it's course a long time ago.
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Yeah they are just trolls. I don’t even waste my time with them anymore. They only like to post something every once in a while to keep it going.
 
Boywondr

Boywondr

The truth never changes.
542thruNthru said:
It's not exactly about being from the west coast.
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Screenshot_20200928-211424.png well....
 
542thruNthru

542thruNthru

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Boywondr said:
You sad bro?
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Naw, truthfully I win either way. Don't have really anything against OZ just feel other than the stigma of Hoffa, Teamster Power slate is just as good and for people in the west like me they are better.

Though I'm still keeping a open mind and reading both sides.
 
Yolo

Yolo

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Vote for whoever you want. But O did our brothers and sisters dirty in this situation. I'd prefer if he didn't do it again.
 

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