Local 25 Teamsters borderline criminal act?

How do you feel about this situation?

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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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Justaloader said:
I didn't conjure it. I live in Pennsylvania - and I was given the choice to opt in or out when I was hired. Pennsylvania is not a right to work state - we are what's called at "at-will" state. I brought this up in another thread - then one in which the guy asked about leaving the union and all hell broke loose - and it seemed the proverbial light bulb kicked on for everyone after reading that question. People that work in my hub get the same payrate regardless of Union affiliation, and have the option to, like I said, opt-in, or opt-out.
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Are you still paying an agency fee (% of full union dues)?
 
Yolo

Yolo

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Local 25.

Peak is almost here. I know you guys are getting excited to screw over seasonals again. Just a friendly reminder that we still have the NLRB on speed dial. We will not tolerate this nonsense this year. Remember you are literally paid to protect these people. You work for us. We don't work for you. Be decent people!
 
burrheadd

burrheadd

KING Of GIFS
Yolo said:
Local 25.

Peak is almost here. I know you guys are getting excited to screw over seasonals again. Just a friendly reminder that we still have the NLRB on speed dial. We will not tolerate this nonsense this year. Remember you are literally paid to protect these people. You work for us. We don't work for you. Be decent people!
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Brown Buddy

UPSnBrowns
Mart Man said:
Hello,

My name is Austin and I just recently started working as a seasonal part-time package handler for a UPS facility in Massachusetts back in late October. When I was hired the company had made it clear to me on my first day that the job was seasonal, however, I would still need to begin paying an initiation fee to the Local 25 Teamsters Union. The initiation fee is $500.

On my first day I was provided with union paperwork which I read thoroughly and signed off on. In the paper work it stated that the initiation fee was $500, however the Teamsters recognized that a part-time employee is financially unable to pay $500 upfront, so the fee was broken down into 15 and a half weeks of 32$ payments.

To mine surprise, when I received my pay check today it stated $0. At first I thought it was a mistake, but then other employees started expressing similar concerns saying either the majority or the entirety of their paycheck had been drained, even their attendance bonuses. In my paystub it clearly stated that the entire amount of my paycheck was deducted for Union dues.

Now this is where it gets interesting. Upon everyone receiving their paychecks, a mob began to form in the middle of the building, all employees upset that their entire pay checks had been drained due two union dues. It also appeared that no one seemed to know why this had happened.

Upon speaking with management, they had assured us that they had no idea that this was going to happen and that for the last 20 years an event like this had never taken place before. They then went on to say that union dues had always been taken out in incremental amounts until completed, never has employees checks been completely drained.

Management then referred employees affected by this issue to their union stewards. Now the mob switched their attention from management to the stewards standing by. The stewards seemed to have no idea that this was going to happen and could offer no explanation. Some of them even tried to shift the blame from the Union to UPS and Human Resources. After the crowd calmed down, we were given the Union Halls number which I immediately picked up my phone and called.

A women picked up and assured me that she had been receiving calls all day regarding the issue and could do nothing for me but take my name and number and refer it to the business rep. She said that the contract states that after 31 days the union has the right to take any remaining dues in full. I then proceeded to tell her that in the paper work I signed states the fee would be broken down into payments. To that, she had no comment. I then asked her who in the Union made this decision and she said that she did not know, but she felt terrible for those employees.


Now, the reason why I am on Browncafe today is to see if anyone else from another Union did or has experienced a similar issue before? It seems to me almost criminal to take someone's entire weeks pay check at the beginning of the month when bills are due, just a few weeks before Christmas, especially when they are seasonal employees and will most likely never be able to take advantage of the benefits. For me, it wasn't as much of a big deal because I have a full-time job during the day and only picked up this job to help make some additional income for the holiday season and get in shape. I saw one employee crying because she had children at home to feed and was living paycheck to paycheck.

I also did a little research on Google and found an article from November 2018 stating that the Local 25 teamsters union was $5B in debt for their pension plan. Maybe there is a link between this event?

Please no trolls!
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Temp employees should receive a refund of dues if terminated or should transfer to new local of you move ! They do this often however when you ask they say you were permanent
 
Bubblehead

Bubblehead

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Brown Buddy said:
Temp employees should receive a refund of dues if terminated or should transfer to new local of you move ! They do this often however when you ask they say you were permanent
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If you work in a closed union shop and perform bargaining unit work, for union negotiated pay, you are going to pay dues....period.
 
Yolo

Yolo

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Yolo said:
There should never be a situation where seasonal employees have to goto the NLRB to get their paychecks from the union. What local 25 did was awful. I hope for the sake of our union they dont pull this nonsense again.
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Yolo

Yolo

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Rereading this thread. Good God some of you are outright heartless. Let's not have a repeat of this nonsense.

Sheila says she thought the union was there to make sure UPS employees got paid a fair wage for the work they perform, telling WBZ, “I thought they were supposed to protect our rights.”
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That quote is outright heartbreaking. Local 25 be better than this. Please. :'(
 
UPSER1987

UPSER1987

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Yolo said:
Local 25.

Peak is almost here. I know you guys are getting excited to screw over seasonals again. Just a friendly reminder that we still have the NLRB on speed dial. We will not tolerate this nonsense this year. Remember you are literally paid to protect these people. You work for us. We don't work for you. Be decent people!
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They work for you when it benefits them. Otherwise, most of these turdsters are just a bunch of hot air and idle threats.
 

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