Maybe getting rid of 2/3 isn't a good idea..

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Utahloader, Feb 5, 2019.

  1. Crosscutters

    Crosscutters New Member

    My issue is the Union continuously saying a contract passed when it didn’t. The upstate New York supplement was voted DOWN 2-1 yet the press release from teamsters was New York supplement passes. No. No it didn’t. Teamsters enforced the contract after it failed to get to 50% participation. A big difference. But why let facts interfere? Let’s polish a turd and hope no one notices?
     
  2. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

    So how long you been retired?
     
  3. gman042

    gman042 Been around the block a few times

    Simple majority of votes cast.
    Getting a contract shoved down our throats because of language loopholes is of questionable integrity.
    It is quite apparent just whom the union leadership is representing and it is not the members.
     
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  4. Slug Life

    Slug Life When do we eat?

    Never fails BUG to ride Hoffa’s 1 inch mound of flesh til the end.
     
  5. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Is that supposed to hurt my feelings ?
     
  6. Mr. Marshall

    Mr. Marshall Member

    I sort of agree with the original poster as we live in an age where nobody is ever happy. It's a very sad state.
     
  7. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    So you prefer a dictatorship or monarchy?

    This rule, to me, seems more geared towards exploiting the notion that most people don't care (to vote), rather than that they are never "happy".
     
  8. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    The Teamsters leadership is hardly a dictatorship or monarchy.
     
  9. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    Try holding anyone in leadership accountable for wrongdoing.
     
  10. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    Please explain.
     
  11. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    What is the process for holding an elected representative accountible? They control the workings for such things. You can go to the nrlb after exhausting internal mechanisms, so maybe a year or two later something might happen. When our elected representativea violate the union constitution, how can a member challenge them?
     
  12. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    It's not far off with this 50%/two-thirds rule....and a Constitution that allows Hoffa to interpret it one way in 2013, then completely to the contrary in 2018.
     
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  13. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Two different sections were used in 2013 and 2018.
     
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  14. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    Your answer is in your post. Other than using the "internal mechanism" process, elected representatives must stand for election every three years.
     
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  15. Jim Rockford

    Jim Rockford Member

    So..if the local riders are going to be imposed anyway...what power does the local have? What reason to UPS have to bargain at all?
     
  16. wilberforce15

    wilberforce15 Active Member

    Keep the voting rules, but abolish the setup where 65% of us are PT.

    That's the problem, and the voting rules are a symptom.

    If you want an active union, you need a reason for them to be active, and throwaway college work doesn't qualify.
     
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  17. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    When you say local riders, I'm assuming you mean Regional supplements.



    As much power, as the members are willing to afford them.

    It's only through member participation.... does any Local have power.



    They are required by law under the NLRA.


    National Labor Relations Act | NLRB | Public Website



    That's been a work in progress since 1997.



    That's a double edged sword.

    In small outlying centers, a part-time job at UPS is premium job.


    Unfortunately, the Union can't dictate to the company how to run their business.

    What the Union can do.... is try and negotiate the best deal possible.... for all.



    -Bug-
     
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  18. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    The 22.4 Lauguage although unpopular is clearly an attempt to prevent allowing part-time weekend driver jobs. It may be less of a job than a RPD but it is way better than part-time weekend jobs.
     
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  19. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS




    What the Union can do.... is try and negotiate the best deal possible.... for all.

    You can’t be serious

    SMH
     
  20. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    They aren't doing that ?
     
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