El Correcto
god is dead
What you don’t want to ramble anymore? Good good.
millions of americans will be homeless today
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El Correcto
god is dead
Yeah government is bad at everything, it’s why people should of never agreed to the lockdown. You won’t deal with that reality.
refineryworker05
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People didn’t agree with anything. Again without the lockdown it was estimated that 2 or 3 million people would die in 2020 alone. You are not dealing with the actual policy choices facing the trump administration. It was let the economy be destroyed by letting 2 or 3 million people die over the next few months or try to mitigate the deaths and use the government to support the economy until there’s a vaccine. That was the choice they faced.
and once the trump administration decided to try to limit the deaths from the pandemic, then allowing potentially millions of people to be evicted when they lost their jobs because their industry shut down is an irrational policy choice.
refineryworker05
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Not one of these posters has dealt with what the trump administration was facing when it did the eviction moratorium. Again it was projected that over 2 million Americans would die in 2020 from coronavirus. That many deaths from a disease was going to crater the economy. It was going to shutdown industries, there was going to be massive job losses. Even the incompetent trump administration recognized that reality. And so they made a reasonable choice since the economy is tanking anyway, why not try to mitigate the deaths from covid, by encouraging shutdowns of certain industries nationwide and we will pass a huge stimulus package to take care of those buisness owners and unemployed Americans until we get a vaccine. Once the trump administration took that course of action, it would make no sense to allow potentially 10's of millions of people to lose their homes or get evicted from apartments. These are the choices the trump presidency were facing during the early stages of the pandemic.
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refineryworker05
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I am no trump fan and think he did a terrible job handling cornavirus and his insanity and lies cost the lives of hundreds of thousands, but faced with reality at the start of the pandemic and those choices his administration made the logical decision to have to CDC tell states to shut down certain industries, etc and so on. and that led to the eviction moratorium. Yet, trump's supporters on brown cafe won't deal with the actual policy choices trump faced and are just dealing in fantasy about the lockdowns failing and being unnecessary. They are inventing scum bag renters to deal with the fact that landlords have not gotten their rent money, instead of the dealing with the loss of 22 million jobs, and delayed unemployment benefits and the money going out to subsidize rent beingtoo slowly distributed as the actual issues, plus a lot of landlords are turning down that money because taking the money prevents them from evicting tenants. Again this is the actual thing going on in the real world, but republicans are in lala land and refuse to deal with objective reality.
Lineandinitial
Legio patria nostra
It must suck having to live out of your car after having a free ride for 1+ years...
Shoulda' seen it comin'!
Shoulda' seen it comin'!
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
You get what you pay for.
Again this is the actual thing going on in the real world, but Democrats are in lala land and refuse to deal with objective reality.
School is work too
What'dyabringmetoday???
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Not sure what "republicans" have to do with it. Fact is people don't want to work. You don't have to like it but it is reality.
Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Don't insult anyone who has served.
What'dyabringmetoday???
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Yeah- thank goodness Jeff Biden is in charge now.
refineryworker05
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Many Of The 22 Million Lost Jobs ‘May Never Return’ And A Recovery Is Already ‘Plateauing’: Philly Fed President
Minority workers are more likely than other groups to hold jobs that could be lost permanently to automation, Federal Reserve researchers found.
www.forbes.com
The U.S. Has Regained Almost 3/4 Of The 22 Million Jobs That Were Lost Last Year
U.S. employers added 943,000 jobs in July as the unemployment rate fell to 5.4%. Nearly 70% of the new jobs went to women.
www.npr.org
I know, imaginary bad people that don't want to work, vs the reality that 10's of millions lost their jobs, we are still millions of jobs short, people's unemployment checks were delayed for months and months. These posters flat out refuse to deal with reality. It is all imaginary undeserving bad people
refineryworker05
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The level of dishonesty. The eviction moratorium was started under trump. Also, the rent payments program will make most landlords whole. The money is going out very slowly. This is the huge failure by local and state and the federal governments.
Plus if any landlord takes out mortgages/loans on apartment buildings/houses they can't afford without tenants paying to cover that mortgage/loan, that is an unwise and gigantic risk to take. I couldn't imagine depending on complete strangers to cover my mortgages/loans. There is just too much that could go wrong.
Secondly, if a landlord can't hold out because they made the extremely risky decision to depend on strangers to cover their mortgage/loan payments, then sell the the fcking property and make a profit. Housing stock is limited. Investors or landlords in better financial shape will buy your rental property.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Many Of The 22 Million Lost Jobs ‘May Never Return’ And A Recovery Is Already ‘Plateauing’: Philly Fed President
Minority workers are more likely than other groups to hold jobs that could be lost permanently to automation, Federal Reserve researchers found.
The U.S. Has Regained Almost 3/4 Of The 22 Million Jobs That Were Lost Last Year
U.S. employers added 943,000 jobs in July as the unemployment rate fell to 5.4%. Nearly 70% of the new jobs went to women.
I know, imaginary bad people that don't want to work, vs the reality that 10's of millions lost their jobs, we are still millions of jobs short, people's unemployment checks were delayed for months and months. These posters flat out refuse to deal with reality. It is all imaginary undeserving bad people
Anyone who wants a job can get one.
People who don't pay rent should get evicted.
That is objective reality.
Democrat nonsense la-la land delusion is irrelevant.
refineryworker05
Well-Known Member
Think, every day thousands of Americans turn 18 or 22 and enter the labor force. So our working age population grew and so we need more jobs than we had in March 2020, yet based on objective data we have about 6 million fewer jobs than in March of 2020. This is objective reality. You can say anything or believe anything is true. But the facts say we lost 22million jobs and we have recoverd like 16million of those jobs which means we are probably 6.5 or 7million jobs short of where we need to be.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
There are more jobs than workers.
Anyone who wants a job can get one.
Your Democrat nonsense la-la land delusion is irrelevant.
refineryworker05
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No this is wrong. This is dishonest nonsense. We have about 6 million fewer jobs now than in March 2020, we have a growing working age population, and even during low unemployment, we had like 4.1% unemployment which means there were not enough jobs for all job seekers, that's literally what unemployment means. We never have had enough jobs for all job seekers. Again the unemployment rate is made up of people actively seeking employment who want to work and we have never had 0% unemployment. So no everyone who wants a job has never in the history of this nation been able to get a job and certainly not now when there are literally 6 million fewer jobs.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
No this is wrong. This is dishonest nonsense. Anyone who wants a job can get one. Businesses are desperate for workers.
That is objective reality.
refineryworker05
Well-Known Member
republicans are delusional. The very measurement of unemployment means active job seekers. Logic dictates that unless your unemployment rate reaches 0% that means there are not enough jobs for every job seeker. Smh
How the Government Measures Unemployment
www.bls.gov
Who is counted as unemployed?
People are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work. Actively looking for work may consist of any of the following activities:- Contacting:
- An employer directly or having a job interview
- A public or private employment agency
- Friends or relatives
- A school or university employment center
- Submitting resumes or filling out applications
- Placing or answering job advertisements
- Checking union or professional registers
- Some other means of active job search
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