More bad press from...of course GROUND

[Cactus]

Out with FXE drivers coming in the FXG terminal... as someone else noted, we probably had FXE rejects coming in to help.

Instead, I saw a dozen FX Freight drivers with short rear dually box trucks coming in after the main drivers were gone.

The tugs pulled the oversized freight left behind by the main drivers & was divided up among them.

Of course, my subcontractor group didn't use them since we now have enough drivers and rental vehicles to take on the covid peak overflow

I wouldn’t expect your “bailout” to last forever. Fred will bitch about how much it’s costing him (regardless how much more revenue has been coming his way) and you guys will be stuck shoveling through the endless mess yourselves especially since you’re already providing free labor for him.

 

[bacha29]

I wouldn’t expect your “bailout” to last forever. Fred will bitch about how much it’s costing him (regardless how much more revenue has been coming his way) and you guys will be stuck shoveling through the endless mess yourselves especially since you’re already providing free labor for him.

I would imagine that many if not the majority of Ground contractors are in PPP because if it's free money if 75% of the loan/grant is used to keep people on payroll. So it really and truly is free labor.

 

[Cactus]

I would imagine that many if not the majority of Ground contractors are in PPP because if it's free money if 75% of the loan/grant is used to keep people on payroll. So it really and truly is free labor.

PPP???

 

[Fred's Myth]

PPP???

CARES Act Payroll Protection Program.

 

[bbsam]

I would imagine that many if not the majority of Ground contractors are in PPP because if it's free money if 75% of the loan/grant is used to keep people on payroll. So it really and truly is free labor.

I doubt if any contractors qualify for that.

 

[It will be fine]

I doubt if any contractors qualify for that.

We all qualify, just have to make a good faith assertion that current economic uncertainty makes it necessary.

 

[bbsam]

We all qualify, just have to make a good faith assertion that current economic uncertainty makes it necessary.

And does it? In good faith?

 

[It will be fine]

And does it? In good faith?

Absolutely. Need to pay extra hazard pay, need to pay for PPE for workers, need more equipment and workers. I’ve hired 3 more people since I was funded.

 

[bbsam]

Absolutely. Need to pay extra hazard pay, need to pay for PPE for workers, need more equipment and workers. I’ve hired 3 more people since I was funded.

Doesn’t the extra revenue from the business cover that?

 

[It will be fine]

Doesn’t the extra revenue from the business cover that?

Possibly. It won’t if the bottom drops out with 25% unemployment, hence the uncertainty.

 

[bbsam]

Possibly. It won’t if the bottom drops out with 25% unemployment, hence the uncertainty.

Lol. That’s pretty deep into the reasoning.

 

[It will be fine]

Lol. That’s pretty deep into the reasoning.

I didn’t make the rules. Loss of revenue isn’t part of the criteria. It’s a stimulus and I’m using the money for increased payroll. It’d be negligent not to apply.

 

[floridays]

I’m using the money for increased payroll. It’d be negligent not to apply.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I may be, don't want to give the time to research an answer, thus I ask.

Is the purpose of these loans (grants) to continue paying furloughed employees through this "crisis" until business conditions change and allow for the reinstatement to full employment?
Was this not passed (in spirit) to provide financial security for workers not deemed to be a member of "essential" class of workers?

I'll start with that.

@bbsam your response would be welcomed and actually solicited, @It will be fine has blocked me, no answer would be forthcoming from him/her/whatever.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

We all qualify, just have to make a good faith assertion that current economic uncertainty makes it necessary.

Economic uncertainty? You guys are turning away volume.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I didn’t make the rules. Loss of revenue isn’t part of the criteria. It’s a stimulus and I’m using the money for increased payroll. It’d be negligent not to apply.

I was surprised to hear that the church that I belong to applied for and received PPP funding.

 

[bbsam]

I was surprised to hear that the church that I belong to applied for and received PPP funding.

Did you think it appropriate?

 

[bbsam]

Correct me if I'm wrong, I may be, don't want to give the time to research an answer, thus I ask.

Is the purpose of these loans (grants) to continue paying furloughed employees through this "crisis" until business conditions change and allow for the reinstatement to full employment?
Was this not passed (in spirit) to provide financial security for workers not deemed to be a member of "essential" class of workers?

I'll start with that.

@bbsam your response would be welcomed and actually solicited, @It will be fine has blocked me, no answer would be forthcoming from him/her/whatever.

It truly doesn’t say. It is typical vague language in which it can mean whatever the reader wants or not mean whatever the reader does not want. My own impression is that the government wanted to pump money into the economy and they really don’t care if it’s ever repaid.
Now in that spirit, I would think IWBF is totally justified and as he said, loss of revenue is not a requirement.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Did you think it appropriate?

Truthfully? No.

There are fewer than 10 people on staff, including the pastor and vicar. Furlough the office staff and let them collect unemployment.

 

[bacha29]

And does it? In good faith?

Isn't this great of me bbsam? I would have felt really bad if you failed to take part in Fat Freddy's crowning achievement for which he labored (or should I say lobbied) all these years........An all volunteer workforce or something very close to it which is what PPP is......And I pointed you in that direction.

 

[bbsam]

Isn't this great of me bbsam? I would have felt really bad if you failed to take part in Fat Freddy's crowning achievement for which he labored (or should I say lobbied) all these years........An all volunteer workforce or something very close to it which is what PPP is......And I pointed you in that direction.

So you think I should apply?