New 18 second rule for bulkhead door.

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by mpeedy, Apr 21, 2015.

  1. mpeedy

    mpeedy Member

    We have been on Orion for a year. A couple of weeks ago we we're told there was a new report that was going to be hot. If you have 1 package for a stop you have 18 seconds to open your bulk head door, find the package and close your bulk head door. At the end of the day the report will talley up how many times you failed at doing this. On top of this the report will show how long your bulk head door was open all day. If you are at the bottom of the list you will be talked to.
    The big offenders are told that if they can't find the package within 18 seconds close the door then reopen it because this resets the clock.
    If you have a bulk stop to deliver out the back, keep the bulkhead door closed. (I think this one is a safety issue if it is hot outside not having ventilation.)
    Someone needs to make a movie about this job with Orion.
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  2. HardknocksUPSer

    HardknocksUPSer Well-Known Member

    There's no way, I don't believe this.
  3. joeboodog

    joeboodog good people drink good beer

    This sounds so ridiculous but unfortunately it sounds like it could be true. It would work well at a dock delivery and what about sorting the load? Oh yeah, everything is perfect.
  4. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    So I should take a picture of my load and present it on a daily basis about my egress violations?
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  5. ZQXC

    ZQXC Guest

    No one, and I mean no one, wants to see a picture of your load
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  6. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    If you are delivering a bulk stop out of the back why would you need to have the bulkhead door open?

    18 seconds may not sound like a lot of time but it should be more than enough to open the door, select the package(s) and close the door. I disagree with closing the door within that time just to stay off a report----that would waste more time than it would save.
  7. ZQXC

    ZQXC Guest

    The door must be closed to establish the elapsed time.
  8. UPSGUY72

    UPSGUY72 Well-Known Member

    Who ever told you that is full of it. Don't believe everything you hear.......

    There is one problem the telematics sensors don't work when the car is off.
  9. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Are you sure about that?
  10. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Wrong, the vehicle is off when you open your door via the keyless ignition switch, which does keep count how many times the bulkhead door was opened and shut.

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    That is such a ridiculous metric.
    There is no way that having a bulkhead door open for 19 seconds proves anything but utter ignorance from IE geeks in Atlanta.
    All it does is provide a false sense of urgency that the job already provides in a whole.
    I will gladly bottom myself out on that report daily while still providing service and being a "scratch" driver.
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  12. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    UPS could easily say its another metric but it would just be another meaningless data point in their reports.
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    We used to call it "massaging the load"---spending more time than needed in the cargo area.
  14. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Reports like these empower drivers to care even less about metric harassment when both parties know it's meaningless rabble.
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  15. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Is it?

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    That info can be found using the diad ,telematics, and GPS functions.
    They actually want you to keep all drinks in the back of the truck to keep from distracted driving, now you're under the gun to sip your water while stopped at a delivery.
    Plus, no driver's truck looks like the ones on all the Orion propaganda videos and UPS puff pieces on the news, NOT ONE.
    They just want to see how far they can push the system.
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  17. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    There is only so many metrics until the driver hits their snapping point to not care at all about any of it.
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  18. Notretiredyet

    Notretiredyet Active Member

    That ones an EZ fix, close door when you go in back to search for package. Reopen after you find it, and make the delivery. Then they'll have a report for excessive door use.
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  19. sailfish

    sailfish Having way too much fun.

    It goes by pieces per stop? I wonder if it will take into account a 140 pounder half as long as the truck. Doubt it.

    Just another report for me to wipe my ass with.
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  20. jaker

    jaker trolling

    Or stealing time by opening it twice
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