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BrownArmy

Well-Known Member
Tell me, how do the felons get to the US? The concord? A bus full of Canadians on a shopping trip? A hand full of workers with visas from Mexico?

Settle down.

Felons get to the US the same way that hard working mfrs get to the US.

Visas! (JK)

Oh, sure, some people get across the border.

Those are the people you want mowing your lawn or doing your roofing job...if they can cross 500 miles of desert, no doubt they can fix your roof.

But that's not what you mean, is it?

Trump's own agencies have determined that drugs are coming across legal ports of entry.

Why are you stuck on 'felons' coming across the border?

Turn off FOX and Limbaugh.
 

1989

Well-Known Member
Settle down.

Felons get to the US the same way that hard working mfrs get to the US.

Visas! (JK)

Oh, sure, some people get across the border.

Those are the people you want mowing your lawn or doing your roofing job...if they can cross 500 miles of desert, no doubt they can fix your roof.

But that's not what you mean, is it?

Trump's own agencies have determined that drugs are coming across legal ports of entry.

Why are you stuck on 'felons' coming across the border?

Turn off FOX and Limbaugh.
Nobody comes across without visas? They come to my place by avoiding points of entry. Twice in 2 2/2 years. Both times they were known felons by the border patrol.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
It doesn’t matter where some people think the leak is, we have data that shows most illegal immigration is visa overstays. E-verify is cheap and easy, mandate it for employers and a big part of the problem solves itself.
People who overstay their visa are not a concern like the ones that crash the border.
People who had/have a visa have been vetted and had a skill from which the USA economy can benefit
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
Wow, no matter the actual evidence put in front of you, you're going to tow the Trump line.

Trump's own agencies disagree with his nonsense about this and that, evidently you're going with 'Dear Leader' instead of actual facts.

Good little Comrade.
You’re so cute when you use Socialist jargon!
 

BrownArmy

Well-Known Member
You’re so cute when you use Socialist jargon!

Basically just describing the lost.

Trump says x, y, z.

His own government says, no, no, no.

I mean, this is textbook.

So, yes, anyone going with Trump is going with 'Dear Leader'.

Can't remember anyone loving Obama this much that they suspended reality to this extent.

No doubt, some folk thought Obama was the second coming, but it was never like this.

I don't care what you say, facts are facts.

They used to be, and they still are.

Check out Low.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
Basically just describing the lost.

Trump says x, y, z.

His own government says, no, no, no.

I mean, this is textbook.

So, yes, anyone going with Trump is going with 'Dear Leader'.

Can't remember anyone loving Obama this much that they suspended reality to this extent.

No doubt, some folk thought Obama was the second coming, but it was never like this.

I don't care what you say, facts are facts.

They used to be, and they still are.

Check out Low.
Listening to McBain by moe. reet now.
Nice percussion work mainly on a wooden xylophone.
 

LarryBird

Well-Known Member
visa overstays are people who have already identified theirselves through a formal application process. They are not members of MS13 or terrorists but people who went through the application and background process and came back clean.

anyone sneaking across the border is not identified unless they are caught or surrender. many of those people are hardened criminals and a threat to this country. many are drug smugglers. many are engaged in human trafficking.

I hope you now understand the difference.
Do you really think getting tough on immigration or building a wall is gonna keep out drug smugglers and human traffickers? The same people whose jobs it is to circumvent borders in an illegal manner? The guys who are building these:
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Because you're not keeping them or their products out. They are too well financed, ruthless, politically connected, and entrenched to ever be stopped. As long as we continue to fight a war on drugs and criminalize sex workers, instead of legalizing and regulating both, these people you fear will have power and wealth immeasurable, and the profit motives to continue indefinitely.

The people you will keep out, the honest and hardworking peasants we rely on to come here and fill the jobs Americans will no longer do, aren't the ones you're worried about. They come and work and earn their own way. They provide us a service, and take very little from the system, if anything. They're usually :censored2: scared of being on paper in any way.

But keep telling yourselves the wall will serve any purpose at all. That it will keep out all the dangerous criminals, and cartel gang members, and the drugs they bring. It's bull:censored2:. And you all know it.
 

BrownArmy

Well-Known Member
Let’s use a round number of 2 million apprehensions at the southern border from 2013-1017. Tell me, how many didn’t get caught?

First of all, that's wrong.

Second, who tf cares?

If you want to talk crime, it's American born and bred folk that perp most of the crime.

If you want to make an argument about crime, do some research.

'Illegals' don't add to the overall crime rate, in fact they're more likely to stay under the radar and not commit crimes at all.

Statistics.

It's a lot of math, I know, but try and keep up.
 
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