Nike Memo?

[MAKAVELI]

The government wasn't forcing people to buy insurance back then or see their premiums skyrocket. Big difference.

Premiums skyrocket because the system is privatized and everyone's got their hand in the cookie jar. Has Medicare premiums skyrocketed? Hmm......

 

[vantexan]

One of the drivers behind the ACA was the fact that 86% of of personal bankruptcies were due to medical bills. I hope they have cheap and good quality healthcare where you're going .

They do. Praise Jesus.

 

[vantexan]

Premiums skyrocket because the system is privatized and everyone's got their hand in the cookie jar. Has Medicare premiums skyrocketed? Hmm......

Premiums didn't skyrocket until mandates under Obamacare forced them to.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Premiums didn't skyrocket until mandates under Obamacare forced them to.

Let me ask again. Have Medicare premiums skyrocketed?

 

[vantexan]

Let me ask again. Have Medicare premiums skyrocketed?

Medicare is subsidized by our taxes. Obamacare was putting the onus on people to pay for other people through higher premiums with the ultimate goal of destroying healthcare insurance and making the government the single payer. And hurting a lot of people in the process. Apples and oranges.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Medicare is subsidized by our taxes. Obamacare was putting the onus on people to pay for other people through higher premiums with the ultimate goal of destroying healthcare insurance and making the government the single payer. And hurting a lot of people in the process. Apples and oranges.

Medicare takes the middle man out of the equation. That's why premiums haven't skyrocketed. Ttku...

 

[MAKAVELI]

Medicare is subsidized by our taxes. Obamacare was putting the onus on people to pay for other people through higher premiums with the ultimate goal of destroying healthcare insurance and making the government the single payer. And hurting a lot of people in the process. Apples and oranges.

Private and employer provided healthcare is subsidized by the group with the addition of making a profit. It's all other people's money, no matter what you call it.

 

[vantexan]

Medicare takes the middle man out of the equation. That's why premiums haven't skyrocketed. Ttku...

Premiums skyrocketed because insurers were forced to cover pre-existing conditions.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Premiums skyrocketed because insurers were forced to cover pre-existing conditions.

They skyrocketed because insurers are in business to make a profit where Medicare is not. It's not rocket science Van.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Premiums skyrocketed because insurers were forced to cover pre-existing conditions.

By the way, wherever you plan on living abroad they will be paying for your pre-existing conditions.

 

[bacha29]

They do. Praise Jesus.

And how are those services supported and paid for? Most countries do have some basic healthcare services but in terms of their sophistication many developing nations systems lag . Might be pretty good by now at treating gun shot wounds and head trauma from terrorists bomb blasts but who in the end picks up the tab when there's no insurance and no money?

 

[Cactus]

And this thread is about the Nike Memo? Who’da thunk it?

Hope Dano doesn’t mind me using his picture here.

 

[vantexan]

They skyrocketed because insurers are in business to make a profit where Medicare is not. It's not rocket science Van.

They skyrocketed because insurers had to cover costs and still make a profit or go out of business. As they skyrocketed less people could afford it so eventually many insurers dropped out of healthcare insurance. That was the intent all along, to give government total control over healthcare, be the single payer.

 

[vantexan]

And how are those services supported and paid for? Most countries do have some basic healthcare services but in terms of their sophistication many developing nations systems lag . Might be pretty good by now at treating gun shot wounds and head trauma from terrorists bomb blasts but who in the end picks up the tab when there's no insurance and no money?

It just costs less because people have less money. We're overpriced in the U.S. but we pay what the market will bear.

 

[moreluck]

It just costs less because people have less money. We're overpriced in the U.S. but we pay what the market will bear.

bear market??!!

 

[Fred's Myth]

bear market??!!

Bear Supermarket?

 

[59 Dano]

Suck up to big pharma and big insurers all you want but they ain't going to worry about what happens to you if you don't have the money to pay the tab

Neither will the government, but big pharma and big insurance can't put a gun to my head and force me to pay them, either.

 

[59 Dano]

One of the drivers behind the ACA was the fact that 86% of of personal bankruptcies were due to medical bills.

And the result of the ACA was that insurance premiums still kept rising and those "affordable" policies were basic policies that didn't cover the kind of stuff that would bankrupt a person. So, win?

 

[59 Dano]

They skyrocketed because insurers are in business to make a profit where Medicare is not.

Medicare, not being a profit-seeking enterprise, has no reason to operate efficiently in any sense of the word. And --big surprise-- it doesn't!

 

[bacha29]

Neither will the government, but big pharma and big insurance can't put a gun to my head and force me to pay them, either.

So i gather that you seem to believe that you'll always be covered by an employer funded health insurance plan?