Nothing to See Here...Move Along

Discussion in 'FedEx Discussions' started by MrFedEx, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

  2. M I Indy

    M I Indy Member

    Nice statement that Fed Ex is a transportation company (not just an airline) and not law enforcement (yet they want you folks to challenge suspect people around the station), hope every one of you saves this quote for reference to your lawyer should (when) you need one. Support and assist law enforcement, now that's funny.
  3. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    "Not guilty, and we will vigorously defend ourselves in court". Or words to that effect. Translation: Guilty, and we will settle out of court because if we went to court we'd pay even more.
  4. FedExRookie

    FedExRookie Member

    And there go your bonuses raises this year ladies and gents.
  5. Operational needs

    Operational needs Non desistas. Non exieras.

    Bonuses? What are those?
  6. FedExRookie

    FedExRookie Member

    Raises, sorry. lol

    New job will give me a $3K bonus after 120 days on the job. Already shifting my focus away from FedEx.

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    Get your popcorn. It's going to be a show. Can't wait to see management's faces tomorrow. There goes that $1.6 billion savings they promised investors:-)
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  8. Cactus

    Cactus Just telling it like it is

    Ha! Sucks to be you Fred! :likeit:
  9. fedex_rtd

    fedex_rtd Active Member

    Actually FedEx is a police agency.....
    Federal Express hires its own police force
    Monday, March 1, 2004
    By Woody Baird, The Associated Press
    MEMPHIS, Tenn. -- Not content with mere security guards, FedEx has created its own private police force.

    The 10 officers don't wear uniforms, but they can carry guns and have full law enforcement powers to protect the world's largest cargo airline from terrorism or other threats.

    "They primarily function in sort of a detective mode," said Kristin Krause, spokeswoman for the Memphis-based package delivery company. "They also have a heavy concentration on executive security."

    But the private police force has critics, including David Webb, chairman of the FedEx unit of the Air Line Pilots Association, who says there isn't enough public oversight.

    "Who gets to make the accusations and give the instructions to these law enforcement officers to engage in an investigation?" Webb said.

    "What level of due process and probable cause has been met and who, more importantly, is going to be evaluating whether that's an appropriate level of due process or probable cause?"

    Like most large corporations, FedEx has long had an extensive security force to guard its property and personnel.

    But two years ago, FedEx won approval from the state legislature to take its security up a notch and organize a police force of commissioned law enforcement officers.

    With little debate, state lawmakers amended a statute authorizing a police force for the Tennessee Valley Authority, so it would include airlines headquartered in Tennessee, which means FedEx.

    Krause said the FedEx police can launch any investigations they feel are necessary. But once the officers think they're on to something, they notify traditional law enforcement agencies, she said.

    "It's just an additional layer of security for us," she said.

    FedEx refused to let any of its officers be interviewed.

    FedEx is not the first company to have its own police force. Railroads have had private police forces since the 1800s, and some private colleges currently have such officers, said Gene Voegtlin, legislative council for the International Association of Chiefs of Police.

    "It's all a question of standards and training, and as long as they meet the standards that are in place, there shouldn't be a real problem," he said.

    But FedEx's main competitor, Atlanta-based United Parcel Service, will continue to rely on its security guards and use traditional law enforcement for police work, said spokesman Bob Godlewski.

    "They do that for a living," he said.

    Since the FedEx police force is made up of commissioned officers, it gets a seat on a regional terrorism task force run by the FBI.

    The task force, one of 66 around the country, meets twice a month to review intelligence on terrorist activities from around the world. FedEx is the only private company on the Memphis regional task force.

    "As the largest cargo carrier in the world, they have a lot of issues that impact them that we might be interested in. That's about as far as I can go with that," said Matt Chapman, the FBI agent in charge of the Memphis task force.

    Task force members cannot discuss the group's work with anyone lacking security clearance, including corporate officers at FedEx.

    "They don't have to share or pass that information because they're the decision makers," Chapman said. "They can just take action."

    The officers are commissioned by the state Department of Public Safety and must have the same training as any other officer in Tennessee. But they are supervised by FedEx, not by any state agency, said Mark Bracy, director of the Tennessee Law Enforcement Training Academy.

    "(FedEx) would be liable for any of their acts," Bracy said.

    But that's part of the problem, says Barbara Kritchevsky, a University of Memphis law professor who compared the FedEx police force to the privately operated prisons that are springing up around the country.

    "You have private companies sort of controlling aspects of government. ... You have a concern about what sort of controls there are," she said.

    Kinda blows that "we are not law enforcement" angle out the window.
  10. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    Think Fred's private SS Security Force. Maybe they recruited Sniper to join the FedEx Gestapo"A-Team". Actually, this is kind of scary since it's basically a private police force, kind of like the Pinkertons during the union strike-breaking days. Eerie parallels.
  11. FedExRookie

    FedExRookie Member

    Weren't the pinkertons infiltrating the union? These FedEx police must turn over anything that is substantial to an actual law enforcement agency.
  12. hypo hanna

    hypo hanna Well-Known Member

    Who determines what is "substantial"? This whole private force thing is ripe for abuse IMO.
  13. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    The Pinkertons go way back. Do you really think the FedEx goon squad would operate above board? Think Blackwater and secret ops, not legitimate law enforcement.
  14. 59 Dano

    59 Dano Some of my best friends are black.

  15. 59 Dano

    59 Dano Some of my best friends are black.

    Yeah, hardly a day goes by that I don't hear about the FedEx cops opening fire on people in labor disputes.
  16. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    Right now a crack team of 12 year olds are wading through all the relays and diversions you've set up to hide your undisclosed location. Soon purple and orange helicopters will be dropping mercenaries into your back yard. They'll make you stretch and flex, oh yes they will!!
  17. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    They would if they could.
  18. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    You don't need Pinkertons to just comeback for more abuse on your own.
  19. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    I hate to rub it in, but I literally got a retirement route when I got back. I don't work in a station, keep my van at home, work in beautiful scenery with mild winters. Sure, would've liked to have gotten my pay back, but my wife will work so we're fine. When you let go of the pay issue you'll see things in a different light. I understand the anger, but all the anger over the years hasn't changed anything except it eats at the insides of the angry. There's more to life than your job, consider developing other interests for your own sake.