Notorious R.B.G. dead at 87 - Replace her before January 17th, 2021?

vantexan

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There is no way the Dems will let another Trump nominee through. Scalia died early 2016, and Republics refused to allow Obama to get another Supreme Court pick in. The Dems will now return the favor.
The precedent was/is that in an election year when the president is of one party and the Senate is controlled by the opposition party then a vote won't be allowed. Doesn't apply when both are controlled by the same party. And there's no filibuster rule for confirming judges. The only real concern for Republicans senators is that some are vulnerable in their upcoming election. Susan Collins of Maine especially. So the Republicans may not have the votes necessary to win before the election, and may not even control the Senate after new members are sworn in next year. So pretty tricky stuff.
 

newfie

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There is no way the Dems will let another Trump nominee through. Scalia died early 2016, and Republics refused to allow Obama to get another Supreme Court pick in. The Dems will now return the favor.

dems cant stop it 50 plus one. Only the turncoat republicans can stop it.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
.....and democrats' campaign strategy just got turned on it's head. They're going to use this as a get out the vote campaign.

Republicans need to push a new justice through as quick as possible.

good time to load the court up with conservatives since the dems will litigate until the next elections
 

bacha29

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If they try to fill her spot before the election you better be ready for an 11 or 13 member Supreme Court under the next Democrat administration, hopefully cooler heads prevail and nothing is done until after the election
Merrick Garland was nominated 237 days before the 2016 election. McConnell refused to give him a vote claiming as political cover that the American people deserve to have a say in who will be the next SCOTUS . So now RBG dies 46 days before the election . Now lets see what kind of nonsensical rationale McConnell will try to use to differentiate between the two situations. Remember he's in a tough reelection fight in his own state. And Graham who is also in a tough fight and head of the Senate judiciary committee is also in a difficult situation.
The tables have clearly turned on McConnell and Graham and the female vote could swing the election in their respective states.
 

tonyexpress

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Merrick Garland was nominated 237 days before the 2016 election. McConnell refused to give him a vote claiming as political cover that the American people deserve to have a say in who will be the next SCOTUS . So now RBG dies 46 days before the election . Now lets see what kind of nonsensical rationale McConnell will try to use to differentiate between the two situations. Remember he's in a tough reelection fight in his own state. And Graham who is also in a tough fight and head of the Senate judiciary committee is also in a difficult situation.
The tables have clearly turned on McConnell and Graham and the female vote could swing the election in their respective states.

“In the last midterm election before Justice Scalia’s death in 2016, Americans elected a Republican Senate majority because we pledged to check and balance the last days of a lame-duck president’s second term. We kept our promise,” McConnell continued. “Since the 1880s, no Senate has confirmed an opposite-party president’s Supreme Court nominee in a presidential election year.”

McConnell added that “by contrast, Americans reelected our majority in 2016 and expanded it in 2018 because we pledged to work with President Trump and support his agenda, particularly his outstanding appointments to the federal judiciary.”

“Once again, we will keep our promise,” he said. “President Trump’s nominee will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate.”

McConnell: Trump's Supreme Court nominee 'will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate'
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Merrick Garland was nominated 237 days before the 2016 election. McConnell refused to give him a vote claiming as political cover that the American people deserve to have a say in who will be the next SCOTUS . So now RBG dies 46 days before the election . Now lets see what kind of nonsensical rationale McConnell will try to use to differentiate between the two situations. Remember he's in a tough reelection fight in his own state. And Graham who is also in a tough fight and head of the Senate judiciary committee is also in a difficult situation.
The tables have clearly turned on McConnell and Graham and the female vote could swing the election in their respective states.
Nope, one party has the presidency and the Senate so it's ok. Wouldn't be ok if they were divided. And don't tell me that if the Dems had the presidency and control of the Senate they wouldn't go forward with a nomination. Chuck Schumer would be all over that.
 
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newfie

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Merrick Garland was nominated 237 days before the 2016 election. McConnell refused to give him a vote claiming as political cover that the American people deserve to have a say in who will be the next SCOTUS . So now RBG dies 46 days before the election . Now lets see what kind of nonsensical rationale McConnell will try to use to differentiate between the two situations. Remember he's in a tough reelection fight in his own state. And Graham who is also in a tough fight and head of the Senate judiciary committee is also in a difficult situation.
The tables have clearly turned on McConnell and Graham and the female vote could swing the election in their respective states.

ancient whining history. change your p pad . get over it. he who controls the senate makes the rules. All hail the supreme commander turtle
 

bacha29

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“In the last midterm election before Justice Scalia’s death in 2016, Americans elected a Republican Senate majority because we pledged to check and balance the last days of a lame-duck president’s second term. We kept our promise,” McConnell continued. “Since the 1880s, no Senate has confirmed an opposite-party president’s Supreme Court nominee in a presidential election year.”

McConnell added that “by contrast, Americans reelected our majority in 2016 and expanded it in 2018 because we pledged to work with President Trump and support his agenda, particularly his outstanding appointments to the federal judiciary.”

“Once again, we will keep our promise,” he said. “President Trump’s nominee will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate.”

McConnell: Trump's Supreme Court nominee 'will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate'
McConnell used the so called "Biden Rule" to support his refusal to give Garland a vote. The so called Biden Rule was a speech Biden while chairman of SJC made in front of the Senate even though there were no openings on SCOTUS at the time where he stated his belief that there should be no vote on a SCOTUS candidate in an election year That's what McConnell used to help back his refusal to vote on the Garland nomination
So if the so called Biden Rule was a basis for the Garland nonvote in 2016 why doesn't it apply now? What's the difference between two events?
The reps are in a tough situation. Rush through a new appointee just ahead of the election and risk losing control thanks to a huge female voter backlash or try to ram it through post election in a lame duck congress after it loses both Senate control and the White House.

The GOP has a lot to lose in November.
 

BadIdeaGuy

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McConnell used the so called "Biden Rule" to support his refusal to give Garland a vote. The so called Biden Rule was a speech Biden while chairman of SJC made in front of the Senate even though there were no openings on SCOTUS at the time where he stated his belief that there should be no vote on a SCOTUS candidate in an election year That's what McConnell used to help back his refusal to vote on the Garland nomination
So if the so called Biden Rule was a basis for the Garland nonvote in 2016 why doesn't it apply now? What's the difference between two events?
The reps are in a tough situation. Rush through a new appointee just ahead of the election and risk losing control thanks to a huge female voter backlash or try to ram it through post election in a lame duck congress after it loses both Senate control and the White House.

The GOP has a lot to lose in November.
Lol. How do they have a lot to lose if they "ram it through" after the election?

Even if the Republicans lost, there's nothing the Democrats can do to stop it.

One way or another, y'all gonna get another conservative on the bench... :)
 

oldngray

nowhere special
Lol. How do they have a lot to lose if they "ram it through" after the election?

Even if the Republicans lost, there's nothing the Democrats can do to stop it.

One way or another, y'all gonna get another conservative on the bench... :)
RINOs like Romney will work their hardest to block any nomination. It will be more an election issue with the Dems using it to cry wolf
 

floridays

Well-Known Member
McConnell used the so called "Biden Rule" to support his refusal to give Garland a vote. The so called Biden Rule was a speech Biden while chairman of SJC made in front of the Senate even though there were no openings on SCOTUS at the time where he stated his belief that there should be no vote on a SCOTUS candidate in an election year That's what McConnell used to help back his refusal to vote on the Garland nomination
So if the so called Biden Rule was a basis for the Garland nonvote in 2016 why doesn't it apply now? What's the difference between two events?
The reps are in a tough situation. Rush through a new appointee just ahead of the election and risk losing control thanks to a huge female voter backlash or try to ram it through post election in a lame duck congress after it loses both Senate control and the White House.

The GOP has a lot to lose in November.
Was Obama lame duck when he offered Garland, Yes or No.
If you say no you are an idiot. If you say yes, you are correct.
Is Trump lame duck?
Can he be re-elected?
Could Obama be re-elected?
I'll let you figure it out, all by yourself.
 
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