baklava
I don’t work at UPS anymore.
Canada is as far left as you can go?
Kamala said she supported M4A. Until she didn’t. Kept flip flopping and adding qualifiers. She believes in nothing.
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Kamala said she supported M4A. Until she didn’t. Kept flip flopping and adding qualifiers. She believes in nothing.
Wally
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Canada is what, 37 million people? We are 300 million. It won't work.
baklava
I don’t work at UPS anymore.
That’s not the point.
You said universal healthcare is as far left as you can go. Canada is one of many countries that has some form of it. It’s not an extreme position.
Universal healthcare in the US isn’t going to turn us into the Soviet Union.
refineryworker05
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The gop is very close to white nationalists, that guy leading the chant is a white nationalist, that guy was at the Charlottesville alt-right marches.
refineryworker05
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The Democratic Party is the center or slightly left. The Democratic Party has gigantic problems but being far left is just not one of them. the Democratic Party is mostly a moderate party, democratic voters picked Barack Obama, H. Clinton, and Joe Biden for President, far left voters aren’t nominating Obama, Clinton or Biden. I
keep asking what far left positions do them dems actually take? It’s defund the police, which not one dem leader endorses in fact Biden in the democratic primary specifically ran on giving the police more money and again democratic voters picked him with that message, or the green new deal, which I don’t know much about, but what I do know isn’t radical in any real sense, and paying people’s college loans, and getting a public health insurance option, that’s about all dems want to do, you may not like those policies, but are they far left policies? I don’t see it. mostly when people explain how the dems are far left it’s vague conspiratorial bs about an Obama apology tour, or being secretly for China or Muslim terrorist states, or trying to implement communism.
Meanwhile republican elected officials and voters believed Obama wasn’t born in America, many Republican voters believe h. Clinton is responsible for the deaths of dozens of people, many republican elected officials and voters believe trump is fighting a war against an ancient cabal that molests children and drinks their blood, many Republican elected officials and voters believe there was a massive multi state voter fraud scheme with no proof and want to over turn an election. Like to me all that stuff is radical as friend and so republicans at the national level are very radical and many Republican voters are extremely radical. This is not a both sides thing.
newfie
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who said the center failed? Who said there was a center?
newfie
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nice tribute for biden when they either boot him for china laundering or senility
newfie
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wAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaay left. what planet are you on?
baklava
I don’t work at UPS anymore.
Get out of your Fox News echo chamber and learn something.
refineryworker05
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Based on what policies? I’d seriously like an answer focused on policy. I know. I know democrats are secret Muslims, or secret communists or secret atheists, I know Obama hated America, and Clinton is responsible for the deaths of dozens. So moving beyond bs conspiracies what’s radical about democratic policies?
and do you find nothing radical about republicans? Truly policy wise republicans want to privatize Medicare and social security, cut the benefits for both programs, are against the minimum wage, they are against pre existing conditions protection in health insurance, and they want abortion banned in all cases, incest, life of the mother, baby born with significant birth defects. To me objectively these positions are very radical and are just the tip with what elected republicans actually believe and want policy wise.
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refineryworker05
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They don’t even believe socialized medicine is far left, republican voters love Medicare that is sociliazed medicine for the elderly. Medicaid in many states pays for elderly Americans to live in assisted living apartment buildings, again republicans love that stuff. The military has socialized medicine.
we can never get to what they actually mean by far left or socialized medicine. It’s like code language. Cause republicans love Medicare. It has high approval amongst republicans as does social security. Those are the two largest socialistic programs in the US and republicans love them both. So what do they mean by socialism. It’s hard to know.
baklava
I don’t work at UPS anymore.
He falls for the Democrat trick of cloaking milquetoast centrist economic policy in socially liberal/progressive rhetoric and talking points.
refineryworker05
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I don’t know. Maybe what do you mean by liberal/progressive rhetoric and talking points?
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Are these people who are chanting dumb ?
baklava
I don’t work at UPS anymore.
“Socially” is the key.
BLM. Defund the police. Me too.
Doesn’t cost their donors anything to be socially progressive.
Put an empty suit like Kamala out there and call anyone that criticizes her racist and sexist. It’s a decent con.
refineryworker05
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Remember when trump was president and he’d personally attack companies that moved a plant out of a certain state or trump constantly tried to take credit for individual businesses staying open or hiring people, or trump would threaten certain companies and CEO’s with detrimental government action against their businesses if they pursued certain plans that trump didn’t like. Like if republicans were afraid of socialism, then trump directly trying impact a company for doing something trumped didn’t like would have upset and scared them, but as far as I can tell they didn’t care or supported trump’s actions. So I don’t think republican voters dislike socialism in reality. I think socialism or communism are stand in words for change they don’t like.
floridays
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Not one chance in Hell
refineryworker05
Well-Known Member
Democrats didn’t endorse defund the police. At all really. The me too movement was it directly endorsed by democrats? Was it a huge platform they ran on? I don’t think so.
wait so you believe that democratic donors love Blm and the me too movement? You think Blm thinks democratic donors love them? You think the me too movement feels like they have won?
Seems to me either you think the things those groups are fighting are real problems in America or you focus on what you imagine democratic donors think about those grass roots movements.
You really think Kamala Harris doesn’t get criticized without that person mostly being called a sexist and a racist? Like what’s the con? That some criticism of Harris can be rooted in racism and sexism? And some people point that out?
baklava
I don’t work at UPS anymore.
I made the mistake of actually reading one of your overly long posts for once.
I don’t know why I bother.
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