Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

wilberforce15

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OK, how long does it take to fully charge a Tesla that's at say 15%?
You don't want to fully charge it. That's the whole point. Charging is at assymetrical speed.
20% to 80% is lightning fast. For road trips, you stay in that range.

See why I'm saying the doubters are just ignorant?

200 miles of charge is normal to get in 15 minutes.

Most people stop 15 minutes every 200 miles anyway, even in a gas car. A tesla, with a proper supercharging network, isn't even slower than gas for most people.

That's why I did TN to VT in a day by myself.
 

vantexan

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You don't want to fully charge it. That's the whole point. Charging is at assymetrical speed.
20% to 80% is lightning fast. For road trips, you stay in that range.

See why I'm saying the doubters are just ignorant?

200 miles of charge is normal to get in 15 minutes.

Most people stop 15 minutes every 200 miles anyway, even in a gas car. A tesla, with a proper supercharging network, isn't even slower than gas for most people.

That's why I did TN to VT in a day by myself.
I'm usually in and out of a gas station in 7 or 8 minutes after driving 350-400 miles. And I don't have to plan the trip around finding charging stations. I'm 100% for electric vehicles if they live up to their promise but I don't see that happening soon. If what Cheryl posted turns out to be viable and we can get a thousand miles or more on a charge then bring on the EV's.
 

wilberforce15

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I'm usually in and out of a gas station in 7 or 8 minutes after driving 350-400 miles. And I don't have to plan the trip around finding charging stations. I'm 100% for electric vehicles if they live up to their promise but I don't see that happening soon. If what Cheryl posted turns out to be viable and we can get a thousand miles or more on a charge then bring on the EV's.
Congratulations, you're out in 7 minutes after 400 miles. I'm out in, say, 18 minutes after 200 miles.
For a 1000 mile trip, I recharge 4 times and use 72 minutes total, and that's biased against me.

You fill up twice and use 14 minutes.
You get there 58 minutes ahead of me on a 1000 mile trip..
See how silly this debate is
Who cares about 58 minutes on a 1000 mile trip that you might take a few times a year?

I spend less time every year charging than you do filling up.
 

wilberforce15

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So, the Bladder Of Steel Man that I predicted boasts than he can beat me on a 1000 mile trip by one hour.

EV's have officially won. If that's your only bragging point, the gas car is finished.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
I'm usually in and out of a gas station in 7 or 8 minutes after driving 350-400 miles. And I don't have to plan the trip around finding charging stations. I'm 100% for electric vehicles if they live up to their promise but I don't see that happening soon. If what Cheryl posted turns out to be viable and we can get a thousand miles or more on a charge then bring on the EV's.
Until then, I’m using gas. Not to mention they catch fire too.
 

wilberforce15

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lol. You silly guys have to take detours and waste your time every single week with extra errands and pit stops.
Gas cars are dumb. I don't have to do that.

See how easy that is?
 

vantexan

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Congratulations, you're out in 7 minutes after 400 miles. I'm out in, say, 18 minutes after 200 miles.
For a 1000 mile trip, I recharge 4 times and use 72 minutes total, and that's biased against me.

You fill up twice and use 14 minutes.
You get there 58 minutes ahead of me on a 1000 mile trip..
See how silly this debate is
Who cares about 58 minutes on a 1000 mile trip that you might take a few times a year?

I spend less time every year charging than you do filling up.
Are you finding charging stations along the interstate? Are they convenient to restrooms? More to it than just charging.
 

wilberforce15

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Are you finding charging stations along the interstate? Are they convenient to restrooms? More to it than just charging.
Supercharger setups are attractions in themselves, and are always next to grocery stores, gas stations, rest areas, etc.
I've never seen a supercharger setup without food and a bathroom while you wait.
 

vantexan

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Nobody is on those for the range of the car. The network is much bigger than you think it is. And you only need it for road-trips anyway, if you have a house.
Is it? From what I've just read there's only a little over 5600 fast charging outlets in the entire country with many of them in California. They said in order to meet the administration's goals there needs to be about a million.
 

Thebrownblob

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Is it? From what I've just read there's only a little over 5600 fast charging outlets in the entire country with many of them in California. They said in order to meet the administration's goals there needs to be about a million.
Come on Wilbur says you’re ignorant. There’s so few of those charging stations it’s hilarious. And it’s even funnier if people think they’re going to not be paying tax by the mile for EVs.
 

wilberforce15

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Is it? From what I've just read there's only a little over 5600 fast charging outlets in the entire country with many of them in California. They said in order to meet the administration's goals there needs to be about a million.
30,000 supercharging stalls in the world. 15,000 or so in the United States.
So, while you weren't reading, the superchargers tripled. They'll triple again while you're still not reading.

I can travel on a road trip anywhere in the United States without any concern of whether I'll be able to get there. It's 100% certain that I am covered. A few podunk places like near Glacier National Park or something might not accommodate me. lol.

I didn't even look up the stations before going TN to VT. It was that obvious it would be fine.
 
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