Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

[wilberforce15]

Apparently the state of Texas can't.
Do you recall a recent ice storm that knocked out the electrical grid?

Have you extrapolated the effects of everyone plugging their EV in at the same time?

EV's are good for soccer mom's and grocery runs.

Why are you so obsessed with pimping EV's?
What's in it for you?

Reality helping.

All those have been answered, and yet you bring them up as if they haven't. Why waste breath?

 

[wilberforce15]

I am on the last day of a road trip that has taken me from Mn. to Tx. to La. and back to Mn. I have yet to pull into any gas station (big or small) that has a bank of charging stations for EV’s. Are they hiding them around back by the dumpsters? No- I looked there too. Some of these stations have many many pumps that are all being used. I can just imagine what a cluster ———— it would be if every one was taking 15 - 20 minutes at the pump waiting for their EV to charge up.

You're asking why EVs aren't filling up at gas stations?

And as I've already said, the only EV's using superchargers are on long road trips. Gas stations are full of everybody. Most EV 'fill-ups' don't require public chargers at all.

 

[UnionStrong]

Is it? From what I've just read there's only a little over 5600 fast charging outlets in the entire country with many of them in California. They said in order to meet the administration's goals there needs to be about a million.

Never seen any

 

[wilberforce15]

Never seen any

Well, then that settles it. UnionWeak hasn't seen any. The 20,000 of them, just from Tesla, must not exist.

I've done 1200 mile road trips in a day powered by hopes and dreams.

 

[oldngray]

Never seen any

There is only 1 within 30 miles of me that I know of.

I'm sure there is never a waiting line.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Well, then that settles it. UnionWeak hasn't seen any. The 20,000 of them, just from Tesla, must not exist.

I've done 1200 mile road trips in a day powered by hopes and dreams.

i’ve seen one. Naturally Wilbur says he’s answered every question and it’s settled, but he’s answered very little. It works for him that’s great. He shows a map with a bunch of red dots wonderful . I remember when cell phones used to show those maps seeing where you had coverage and I would be smack dab in the middle of coverage with no coverage. How do people in apartments and high-rises charge their vehicles? How do you do people in neighborhoods like I deliver to that park on the street charge their vehicles? How do people who live in a house with multiple cars charge all there vehicles I guess we’re going to run extension cords all over the place? That’s gonna be amazing lol. could the power grid handle a massive influx of EV charging vehicles? If in fact ALL the questions were settled there would be a lot more EVs. Plenty of questions still to be answered for 95% of the people who are not EV evangelists. Some people want whatever’s the cheapest and most convenient solution to transportation.

 

[UnionStrong]

i’ve seen one.

15 min charge… After the tow truck gets you to one. Lol

 

[oldngray]

15 min charge… After the tow truck gets you to one. Lol

Plus a couple of hour wait before you can start charging

 

[UnionStrong]

i’ve seen one. Naturally Wilbur says he’s answered every question and it’s settled, but he’s answered very little. It works for him that’s great. He shows a map with a bunch of red dots wonderful . I remember when cell phones used to show those maps seeing where you had coverage and I would be smack dab in the middle of coverage with no coverage. How do people in apartments and high-rises charge their vehicles? How do you do people in neighborhoods like I deliver to that park on the street charge their vehicles? How do people who live in a house with multiple cars charge all there vehicles I guess we’re going to run extension cords all over the place? That’s gonna be amazing lol. could the power grid handle a massive influx of EV charging vehicles? If in fact ALL the questions were settled there would be a lot more EVs. Plenty of questions still to be answered for 95% of the people who are not EV evangelists. Some people want whatever’s the cheapest and most convenient solution to transportation.

The grid doesn’t have the capacity for all the proposed EV’s, and the people with no charging stations will just have to take the bus.

 

[wilberforce15]

i’ve seen one. Naturally Wilbur says he’s answered every question and it’s settled, but he’s answered very little. It works for him that’s great. He shows a map with a bunch of red dots wonderful . I remember when cell phones used to show those maps seeing where you had coverage and I would be smack dab in the middle of coverage with no coverage. How do people in apartments and high-rises charge their vehicles? How do you do people in neighborhoods like I deliver to that park on the street charge their vehicles? How do people who live in a house with multiple cars charge all there vehicles I guess we’re going to run extension cords all over the place? That’s gonna be amazing lol. could the power grid handle a massive influx of EV charging vehicles? If in fact ALL the questions were settled there would be a lot more EVs. Plenty of questions still to be answered for 95% of the people who are not EV evangelists. Some people want whatever’s the cheapest and most convenient solution to transportation.

All of those are answered or solved, but time works things out.

It's the fastest expansion in automotive history for a type of vehicle, building at breakneck pace, and you're rolling your eyes because it hasn't taken over it. It's all as good as done.

People in high rises rarely own cars. People who street park rarely drive far, which means they would use a public charger far less than once per week. And they're the minority. Most people can power where they park for the night.
You're throwing every attempted exception out as some sort of proof.
Meanwhile Tesla sales continue doubling every year, unabated. You'll soon tell me why selling 10 million Teslas in a year doesn't mean anything.

 

[wilberforce15]

The grid doesn’t have the capacity for all the proposed EV’s, and the people with no charging stations will just have to take the bus.

The grid doesn't have the capacity.
When cars dominated, there weren't enough gas stations, pipelines, wells, or gas trucks. None of it existed in scale. The car scaled in certain locations and lagged in others as infrastructure was built. This is how things work.

 

[Thebrownblob]

All of those are answered or solved, but time works things out.

It's the fastest expansion in automotive history for a type of vehicle, building at breakneck pace, and you're rolling your eyes because it hasn't taken over it. It's all as good as done.

People in high rises rarely own cars. People who street park rarely drive far, which means they would use a public charger far less than once per week. And they're the minority. Most people can power where they park for the night.
You're throwing every attempted exception out as some sort of proof.
Meanwhile Tesla sales continue doubling every year, unabated. You'll soon tell me why selling 10 million Teslas in a year doesn't mean anything.

People in high-rises rarely own cars? lol. People who street park rarely drive far?, goodness gracious those are some pretty big assumptions.

 

[wilberforce15]

15 min charge… After the tow truck gets you to one. Lol

Nobody needs a tow truck unless they intentionally run out of fuel by being a maroon, whether gas or ev.

 

[wilberforce15]

There is only 1 within 30 miles of me that I know of.

I'm sure there is never a waiting line.

Correct. There is never a waiting line, because everyone within 30 miles of you has power at their own house, and you don't get a lot of road-trip through traffic.

So no, I can guarantee you there is never a line.

 

[wilberforce15]

There is a common thread among all the ignorant and doubters.

They've never ridden in a Tesla.

 

[Thebrownblob]

There is a common thread among all the ignorant and doubters.

They've never ridden in a Tesla.

Ridden and drove, so just another assumption and you know what they say about those.

 

[wilberforce15]

Ridden and drove, so just another assumption and you know what they say about those.

Yes, but you're the one who admitted I was right on everything and then challenged my values.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Yes, but you're the one who admitted I was right on everything and then challenged my values.

You certainly have a skewed view of reality, although I’ll give you credit I didn’t say you were wrong about everything I said it’s just not quite ready. Our friend of the family who owns the model S and many other cars because he’s got deep pockets enjoys it but never takes it on long trips because he says it’s inconvenient to find places to charge where he drives long distances for his business. His words not mine. It’s a very nice car though.

 

[wilberforce15]

You certainly have a skewed view of reality, although I’ll give you credit I didn’t say you were wrong about everything I said it’s just not quite ready. Our friend of the family who owns the model S and many other cars because he’s got deep pockets enjoys it but never takes it on long trips because he says it’s inconvenient to find places to charge where he drives long distances for his business. His words not mine. It’s a very nice car though.

And regular, long-trip road warrior types are specifically the types I mentioned who would not like regular EV use.
It's also almost nobody.
So I guess you're admitting I'm right again.

 

[Thebrownblob]

And regular, long-trip road warrior types are specifically the types I mentioned who would not like regular EV use.
It's also almost nobody.
So I guess you're admitting I'm right again.

OK then you admit it I’m right it’s a really expensive fancy golf cart, around town grocery getter. Oh And he also has some very expensive German sports cars guess which one he takes out when he wants to show off…. It’s not the Tesla