Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

[vantexan]

Regardless of whether you have moved, you have not upended your life despite a professed belief that basically the end of the world is here.

I never expressed any such thing. Just pointed out what industry leaders have said. There's just not enough copper and especially silver to electrify hundreds of millions of cars.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I never expressed any such thing. Just pointed out what industry leaders have said. There's just not enough copper and especially silver to electrify hundreds of millions of cars.

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[wilberforce15]

I never expressed any such thing. Just pointed out what industry leaders have said. There's just not enough copper and especially silver to electrify hundreds of millions of cars.

There isn't currently enough copper to do a thing that is 20 years in the future. That's correct. It's also kind of silly to worry about.
The most ambitious aim is for EV's to be half of American car sales in a decade.
And that would mean less than 15% of cars on the road in America, total, even 10 years from now (and that's the optimistic case) and most of the world seeing no EV's.

Replacing a 100 year old dominant, mature technology actually takes quite a bit of time. And it's amazing what can be found or created in the 10 to 30 years in which that is happening.

 

[wilberforce15]

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

I don't think anyone here said anything about clean energy.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I don't think anyone here said anything about clean energy.

Electricity Shortage Warnings Grow Across U.S.

No, WE haven’t because We know it’s a bs excuse.

 

[wilberforce15]

Electricity Shortage Warnings Grow Across U.S.

No, WE haven’t because We know it’s a bs excuse.

Electricity shortages are only a function of green energy communism.
It would be quite easy to embrace the superior technology of electric vehicles, if we could simply build normal power.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Electricity shortages are only a function of green energy communism.
It would be quite easy to embrace the superior technology of electric vehicles, if we could simply build normal power.

Perhaps, but they won’t. The whole point of technology is to limit you. A good portion of the people will be just fine with that because They think they’re saving the earth.

 

[wilberforce15]

Commies are selling EV's, green energy, and self-driving as if they are the same thing.

Functionally, they are.
But a sane person should be able to separate them.
EV's are plainly superior at just about everything. Green energy is dumb. And self-driving destroys liberty, even while it saves lives.

 

[wilberforce15]

Perhaps, but they won’t. The whole point of technology is to limit you. A good portion of the people will be just fine with that because I think they’re saving the earth.

Agreed. Functionally, this is a package deal and it is inevitable and tyrannical as a package.

But EV's are still better than gas cars at just about everything. It's only when paired with green energy and autonomy that they destroy society.

 

[wilberforce15]

Electric lawn tools are where it's at.
I've got a riding mower that can do acres and acres, and all the tools a professional landscaper would have. I can work all day or have a friend work with me, and we never run out of juice. I never store gas. I never have a clogged carburetor. And I have more than all the power I need. It just works, and it's just plainly superior. I have no idea why people buy gas lawn equipment, for the most part (except for money).

 

[floridays]

There are no deals for decent electric cars.

Teslas prices have cut in half in a decade.

They'll cut in half again.
Welcome to ALL new techology.

The rich get it first.

Who's gonna pay for your charging stations?

 

[floridays]

Electric lawn tools are where it's at.
I've got a riding mower that can do acres and acres, and all the tools a professional landscaper would have. I can work all day or have a friend work with me, and we never run out of juice. I never store gas. I never have a clogged carburetor. And I have more than all the power I need. It just works, and it's just plainly superior. I have no idea why people buy gas lawn equipment, for the most part (except for money).

Enjoy using them.

 

[floridays]

What do you drive?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Exclusive-Tesla halts production at Shanghai plant due to supply issues - sources

Tesla Inc halted production at its Shanghai plant on Monday due to issues with securing parts for its electric vehicles, two people familiar with the matter said, the latest in a series of difficulties for the factory.

www.reuters.com

Elon running with a devil

 

[floridays]

Commies are selling EV's, green energy, and self-driving as if they are the same thing.

Functionally, they are.
But a sane person should be able to separate them.
EV's are plainly superior at just about everything. Green energy is dumb. And self-driving destroys liberty, even while it saves lives.

EV's destroy liberty as well when the government dictates we move that way, and subsidises it then regulates it's competition (alternative) out of existence.

I'll one up your commie, who's the tyrant?

 

[vantexan]

There isn't currently enough copper to do a thing that is 20 years in the future. That's correct. It's also kind of silly to worry about.
The most ambitious aim is for EV's to be half of American car sales in a decade.
And that would mean less than 15% of cars on the road in America, total, even 10 years from now (and that's the optimistic case) and most of the world seeing no EV's.

Replacing a 100 year old dominant, mature technology actually takes quite a bit of time. And it's amazing what can be found or created in the 10 to 30 years in which that is happening.

It's not just the U.S. The push is on to electrify all cars worldwide. Won't happen.

 

[floridays]

It's not just the U.S. The push is on to electrify all cars worldwide. Won't happen.

That's the plan though as petro is weened from the picture and electricity can't supply the need.
Call me what you'd like.

 

[wilberforce15]

It's not just the U.S. The push is on to electrify all cars worldwide. Won't happen.

It won't happen because they cannot be made economically to make that happen. The most bullish case for EV's is literally that they'll be 10-15% of AMERICAN cars on the road in 8 years. That's a very slow change. The world will stay much less than that, and that's what the liberals are projecting.

 

[vantexan]

That's the plan though as petro is weened from the picture and electricity can't supply the need.
Call me what you'd like.

OK, I call thee "He who looks for company at last call."

 

[wilberforce15]

EV's destroy liberty as well when the government dictates we move that way, and subsidises it then regulates it's competition (alternative) out of existence.

I'll one up your commie, who's the tyrant?

Dealing with the ignorati is tiresome.
Tesla gets way less subsidies and faces government disfavor across the board. That's because they are not unionized. The feds openly and explicitly favor unionized automakers, and they don't apologize for it.

Tesla is succeeding despite government bias toward the dinosaur companies.