Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

[wilberforce15]

Who's gonna pay for your charging stations?

Users pay for the charging stations.
Tesla build 35k charging stalls, paid for by Tesla users.

 

[vantexan]

It won't happen because they cannot be made economically to make that happen. The most bullish case for EV's is literally that they'll be 10-15% of AMERICAN cars on the road in 8 years. That's a very slow change. The world will stay much less than that, and that's what the liberals are projecting.

There's plenty of wealth in Europe and parts of Asia too. And they're all onboard for the Paris Accords.

 

[wilberforce15]

Enjoy using them.

I will. I can mow my lawn at 10pm, because it's basically silent. It's very convenient.

 

[wilberforce15]

There's plenty of wealth in Europe and parts of Asia too. And they're all onboard for the Paris Accords.

Yes, and Europe and parts of Asia will get EV's too. But not as much.
And even the liberals wildest dreams have EV's at 10-15% of american cars on the road, 8 years from now.
On the one hand, that's the fastest that any such change could happen. On the other hand, it's slow. You act like it's tomorrow.
It's 20-30 years until you're looking at mostly EV's on the road.

 

[vantexan]

Yes, and Europe and parts of Asia will get EV's too. But not as much.
And even the liberals wildest dreams have EV's at 10-15% of american cars on the road, 8 years from now.
On the one hand, that's the fastest that any such change could happen. On the other hand, it's slow. You act like it's tomorrow.
It's 20-30 years until you're looking at mostly EV's on the road.

Where's the copper and silver coming from? You're in denial.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Users pay for the charging stations.
Tesla build 35k charging stalls, paid for by Tesla users.

Seriously if you use one of those superchargers what does it cost you?

 

[wilberforce15]

Where's the copper and silver coming from? You're in denial.

From the ground.

 

[vantexan]

From the ground.

Denial isn't a river in Egypt.

 

[wilberforce15]

Seriously if you use one of those superchargers what does it cost you

5-10 cents per mile, based on whatever EV you have.
But most users only use them a few times per year. That's a common misconception I've covered very thoroughly.
Superchargers basically only exist for people who are traveling more than the range of their vehicle that day.

That's not a lot.

 

[wilberforce15]

Denial isn't a river in Egypt.

You focus on trivial problems as if they were unsolvable.
The earth's gravity and the distance to Mars.

That's a problem. We solved it.
Copper is stupid.

 

[wilberforce15]

What do you drive?

 

[vantexan]

You focus on trivial problems as if they were unsolvable.
The earth's gravity and the distance to Mars.

That's a problem. We solved it.
Copper is stupid.

You've solved what exactly? You've found more copper? It takes more than three times as much silver to make an EV over an ICE vehicle. It's much more scarce than copper. Why are you trivializing this?

 

[Thebrownblob]

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

I’m gonna chalk this up to just being crappy San Francisco.

 

[wilberforce15]

You've solved what exactly? You've found more copper? It takes more than three times as much silver to make an EV over an ICE vehicle. It's much more scarce than copper. Why are you trivializing this?

Three times as much, and yet not all that much. Total EV sales even 10 years from now won't push the supply too hard, and give ample time to find plenty of things. Copper and silver aren't even the problem. They make me laugh.

Lithium and nickel are both harder problems.

 

[wilberforce15]

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

I’m gonna chalk this up to just being crappy San Francisco.

That would be correct. It's just crappy San Francisco.

 

[Thebrownblob]

That would be correct. It's just crappy San Francisco.

A true hell hole.

 

[vantexan]

Three times as much, and yet not all that much. Total EV sales even 10 years from now won't push the supply too hard, and give ample time to find plenty of things. Copper and silver aren't even the problem. They make me laugh.

Lithium and nickel are both harder problems.

Both copper and silver have other industrial uses and very little silver is left over annually between that and investment. There will be limits to what can be done without it.

 

[wilberforce15]

Both copper and silver have other industrial uses and very little silver is left over annually between that and investment. There will be limits to what can be done without it.

And yet, you're focusing on this, but nobody in the EV industry is stressing about it.

Lithium and nickel are the problems.
Elon begs openly for both, and will possibly locate his next factories based on where they can be found. They're mega-big deals to solve.
You are very narrowly focused on stuff that really isn't an issue.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Both copper and silver have other industrial uses and very little silver is left over annually between that and investment. There will be limits to what can be done without it.

Well don’t give the government any ideas. They will just outlaw silver investment, and confiscate everyone’s silver, for the greater good of course….

 

[floridays]

OK, I call thee "He who looks for company at last call."

You wouldn't pass the test, but you're nice to talk to sweatheart.