Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

vantexan

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So the answer is yes, Asperger's.

That's not an insult or personal attack. It's a description. There is no reasonable, non-Aspy person who would take infinite to mean "actually completely and totally unlimited in any sense." That's how you took it.

It means that demand so far outstrips supply that it's all just details. The only contest is production.

Only one manufacturer continually increased production throughout the entire pandemic.

250k sold in 2019.
500k sold in 2020.
1 Million sold in 2021.

That's execution of production in the hardest circumstances, and expanding while everyone else is contracting.
Just over 936,000 in 2021 actually. Toyota, GM, and Ford all did much better.
 

DriverNerd

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So the answer is yes, Asperger's.

That's not an insult or personal attack. It's a description. There is no reasonable, non-Aspy person who would take infinite to mean "actually completely and totally unlimited in any sense." That's how you took it.

It means that demand so far outstrips supply that it's all just details. The only contest is production.

Only one manufacturer continually increased production throughout the entire pandemic.

250k sold in 2019.
500k sold in 2020.
1 Million sold in 2021.

That's execution of production in the hardest circumstances, and expanding while everyone else is contracting.
I'm not on the spectrum, but I don't take it as offensive if someone said I was.

There are many words you could have used and you chose infinite. That has only one meaning. Obviously you were reaching and so was I, but for some reason I'm way out there and you're completely right. It's like arguing with quad decade guy, you're always 100% correct and everybody else's stats and opinions are wrong. You don't even need to look at them or consider them because you're always right.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
I'm not on the spectrum, but I don't take it as offensive if someone said I was.

There are many words you could have used and you chose infinite. That has only one meaning. Obviously you were reaching and so was I, but for some reason I'm way out there and you're completely right. It's like arguing with quad decade guy, you're always 100% correct and everybody else's stats and opinions are wrong. You don't even need to look at them or consider them because you're always right.
He’s a doosh
 

wilberforce15

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I'm not on the spectrum, but I don't take it as offensive if someone said I was.

There are many words you could have used and you chose infinite. That has only one meaning. Obviously you were reaching and so was I, but for some reason I'm way out there and you're completely right. It's like arguing with quad decade guy, you're always 100% correct and everybody else's stats and opinions are wrong. You don't even need to look at them or consider them because you're always right.
Super-aspy. All the love in the world for Aspys.

But super-Aspy.

You'll enjoy this video then:

UnionStrong can only take his education in video form, so I'm trying.
 

wilberforce15

Well-Known Member
A car company designed and mass-produced a chip that NVidia can't make.

A car company built an AI platform that software companies can't make.

A car company can change manufacturing fast enough that a detailed critic (in video above) goes from hater to fan in a flash. Immediate process improvement. Instantaneous change toward anything better.

It's really not even close. Y'all act like luck can create a doubling of production every year for a decade. It's literal magic (Yes, it's even magic for the Aspy).

There have been no new large car companies in the last 100 years. The one that broke in is different.
 

vantexan

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Just over 936,000 in 2021 actually. Toyota, GM, and Ford all did much better.
@wilberforce15 Ha, in the rankings for quality by J.D. Power Tesla isn't included because Tesla won't give permission for owners to participate in the survey in the 15 States where such permission is required by law. But they said based on the results in the other 35 states if Tesla was included it would be ranked third from last. So there you go!
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
@wilberforce15 Ha, in the rankings for quality by J.D. Power Tesla isn't included because Tesla won't give permission for owners to participate in the survey in the 15 States where such permission is required by law. But they said based on the results in the other 35 states if Tesla was included it would be ranked third from last. So there you go!
:censored2: EV’s.
 

rod

Retired 23 years
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1914 electric car charger---wasn't practical then -----isn't practical now.
 

wilberforce15

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@wilberforce15 Ha, in the rankings for quality by J.D. Power Tesla isn't included because Tesla won't give permission for owners to participate in the survey in the 15 States where such permission is required by law. But they said based on the results in the other 35 states if Tesla was included it would be ranked third from last. So there you go!
Yes, everyone knows that their "quality" is the weak spot.

And buyers don't care.

That's because the performance for the price is so outrageous, nobody cares it they need a mobile service job to fix a window opening motor.
 

vantexan

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Yes, everyone knows that their "quality" is the weak spot.

And buyers don't care.

That's because the performance for the price is so outrageous, nobody cares it they need a mobile service job to fix a window opening motor.
They'll care if their very expensive car becomes a money pit. Just because a bunch of virtue signaling rich liberals looking for save-the-planet street cred bought into the hype doesn't mean it's sustainable as a company if they have poor quality. That'll eventually catch up to them. Especially if the market crashes and people can't afford very expensive cars.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Scarcity doesn't drive demand or price in the absence of quality and desirability.

My clipped toenails are scarce, and yet there is no demand and no price.

One company sold a million this year and is worth close to a trillion dollars. Your head is in the ground.

Diamonds are only good for use in cutting hard materials, like your toenails, otherwise they are basically worthless, yet people still get duped into buying them, and paying way too much money. Once teslas are being driven around by welfare queens and rednecks, the market will fall out. They will only continue to be desirable as long as they are seen as a status symbol.
 

wilberforce15

Well-Known Member
Diamonds are only good for use in cutting hard materials, like your toenails, otherwise they are basically worthless, yet people still get duped into buying them, and paying way too much money. Once teslas are being driven around by welfare queens and rednecks, the market will fall out. They will only continue to be desirable as long as they are seen as a status symbol.
The status symbol isn't a virtue signal or anything temporary or ephemeral.

Never in automotive history has such performance been available at this price. It's utterly unique.

A 10 year old Model S STILL does 0-60 in less than 4 seconds. And it STILL costs 30-35,000.

There are very few automakers who can match the price and performance of a 10 year old car.

That's how ridiculous this is.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
Once teslas are being driven around by welfare queens and rednecks, the market will fall out. They will only continue to be desirable as long as they are seen as a status symbol.
I really question their business model as a car manufacturer. Their cars look outdated already.

The novelty is gone. Pretty much every manufacturer is going all in on electric. I'm not sure how Tesla's valuation makes any sense without some kind of M&A with a ride share company or a pivot to prioritize some of their other technologies.
 

wilberforce15

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I really question their business model as a car manufacturer. Their cars look outdated already.

Pretty much every manufacturer is going all in on electric. I'm not sure how Tesla's valuation makes any sense without some kind of M&A with a ride share company or a pivot to prioritize some of their other technologies.
Pretty much nobody is going all-in on electric. Ford's dream, aggressive stance is to eek out a few more percent of total sales. They've waited far too long. Hopelessly behind. GM and Ford, and Volkswagen talk big about pushing to get a few hundred thousand EV's in a few years. Or maybe a million in a few years between all of them. It's really a joke. They sell 10M+. It's a small percentage.

Tesla, however, sold a million this year and is growing faster than they are.

Tesla's valuation does, however, only make sense if they have massive other businesses in addition to car sales. That's for sure. They won't need an M&A with a ride-share. They'd much more likely put the others out of business and run their own.
 
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