Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

[vantexan]

31% union rate, longer life

but canada sucks too were very similar

Canada is worse.

 

[wilberforce15]

The because people like it, is it the best?

That's really not even up for debate.

 

[Thebrownblob]

That's really not even up for debate.

Definitely not with you. That’s how Cults and fanboys work there’s no way to debate. Logic and reason go right out the window. Other companies are making electric cars in a few years Tesla may not be #1….

 

[wilberforce15]

Definitely not with you. That’s how Cults and fanboys work there’s no way to debate. Logic and reason go right out the window. Other companies are making electric cars in a few years Tesla may not be #1….

It is currently the current year, and in the current year there is no competition.

 

[Thebrownblob]

It is currently the current year, and in the current year there is no competition.

That’s weird because someone in my neighborhood bought one of those ugly new all electric mustangs. That seems like some competition.

 

[wilberforce15]

That’s weird because someone in my neighborhood bought one of those ugly new all electric mustangs. That seems like some competition.

Tesla sold 30 times as many EVs as Ford last year, and Ford is drowning in debt with no ability to scale EV production infrastructure.

Car vs car, yes, the mustang is okay. But it isn't competition because Ford can't make them in any quantity that matters. .

 

[UnionStrong]

Tesla sold 30 times as many EVs as Ford last year, and Ford is drowning in debt with no ability to scale EV production infrastructure.

Car vs car, yes, the mustang is okay. But it isn't competition because Ford can't make them in any quantity that matters. .

Not yet….

 

[wilberforce15]

Not yet….

Or in the foreseeable future.

Tesla made 30x more than they did last year.

It will be 50x more this year.

The gap is getting bigger every single year, and by bigger amounts.

 

[wilberforce15]

It will be at least 5 years before Fords entire EV production can equal a single Tesla gigafactory. The gap is that bad.

And that's if Ford is better than expected.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Or in the foreseeable future.

Tesla made 30x more than they did last year.

It will be 50x more this year.

The gap is getting bigger every single year, and by bigger amounts.

Well Tesla and Ford have a lot in common in regards to taking government loans and subsidies.

 

[wilberforce15]

Well Tesla and Ford have a lot in common in regards to taking government loans and subsidies.

No, they don't. Tesla paid back everything early and has no debt. Ford is on the teat still and can't pay it back.

Tesla is more profitable than Ford by many multiples even if you got rid of all the subsidies.

I'm sorry. It's math.

 

[wilberforce15]

Tesla repays federal loan nearly 10 years early

Tesla Motors announced Wednesday that it has repaid a $465 million loan from the government nearly a decade before it was scheduled to do so.

money.cnn.com

 

[Thebrownblob]

No, they don't. Tesla paid back everything early and has no debt. Ford is on the teat still and can't pay it back.

Tesla is more profitable than Ford by many multiples even if you got rid of all the subsidies.

I'm sorry. It's math.

I’m sorry They didn’t take them? The government will pick winners and losers in a crony capitalist System and Elon probably just pissed off his masters.

 

[wilberforce15]

I’m sorry They didn’t take them? The government will pick winners and losers in a crony capitalist System and Elon probably just pissed off his masters.

Tesla is excluded from a lot of government money that others get. It's because Dems don't want to favor a non union manufacturer. They didn't really need the loan, no. And they don't need the subsidies, which are going away anyway, and Tesla is already excluded from other tax credits.

Tesla is the least government favored auto maker.

 

[wilberforce15]

Energy secretary defends tax credits for EVs made by unionized automakers

Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm told CNBC on Friday that President Joe Biden favors companies with unionized labor forces.

www.google.com

 

[wilberforce15]

Literally from the Alzheimers mouth: the government won't help Tesla because it's non-union.

Favoritism is handed out to the others.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Tesla is excluded from a lot of government money that others get. It's because Dems don't want to favor a non union manufacturer. They didn't really need the loan, no. And they don't need the subsidies, which are going away anyway, and Tesla is already excluded from other tax credits.

Tesla is the least government favored auto maker.

They don’t need them but they took them? lol like I said you got it bad my friend fanboys runs super strong and you. They don’t need them but they took them lol like I said you got it bad my friend fanboy runs super strong and you. That’s fine enjoy the car.

 

[wilberforce15]

They don’t need them but they took them? lol like I said you got it bad my friend fanboys runs super strong and you. They don’t need them but they took them lol like I said you got it bad my friend fanboy runs super strong and you. That’s fine enjoy the car.

Correct.

The loan was for less than 1%, of Tesla revenue and paid back a decade early.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Correct.

The loan was for less than 1%, of Tesla revenue and paid back a decade early.

You’re so blinded you can’t even see that you disagreed and have problem with Government subsidies to companies, but it was okay as long as you’re preferred billionaire and company got them, you can justify it. It’s OK to say it was completely wrong and still like to company.

 

[wilberforce15]

You’re so blinded you can’t even see that you disagreed and have problem with Government subsidies to companies, but it was okay as long as you’re preferred billionaire and company got them, you can justify it. It’s OK to say it was completely wrong and still like to company.

I didn't express an opinion about subsidies or government loans.