So as anyone who has had the pleasure of being on Orion can tell you, it's not at all the success that UPS has lead people to believe. So with that said we can in some cases, not all, say that there has been a moderate reduction in mileage. Well from what I've seen that reduction has come at a cost of lower SPORH and an enormous increase in residential backs, which as we all know are our number one accident. So my question then, is there a threshold that cost of Orion is out pacing any would be profit gained by the minimal reduction in mileage. Between any and all wages associated with the workforce, cost of backing accidents, and of course the added conundrum of drastically lower fuel costs. Is there a point at which ORION is a liability that even management will be forced to admit?