Orion Compliance
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no "breaks" are considered when delivering on the same street according to the ORION team in my building
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
Just curious, with all the tracking Big Brother technology UPS uses on drivers....they can't tell when you turn off Orion?
Driver7906
Well-Known Member
One thing I find funny with ORION is when I have a Next Day Air in one of my apartment complexes on a heavy Air day and ORION tells me to do all of the rest of the apartment stops in that complex as well. I just shake my head, switch from ODO to RDO and go about my day.
Pkgcar1988
Well-Known Member
We were told they can tell instantly when we turn it off and when we turn it back on. In my opinion I think they are full of crap, but then again I never turn it off. Their game their rules, like it or not!!!!!
Let us know how that works out for you.
Pkgcar1988
Well-Known Member
Seems like that would be falsifying records, but what do I know.
HEFFERNAN
Huge Member
Orion will tell you to deliver ground with an air you are to deliver, but your next stop it will never bring up the ground you have for it. Then it will have you grab a ground off the the 6000 shelf because it apparently makes sense. It is a screwed up system and yes it will have you do side streets off a main street later, if it feels it is necessary.
Most main streets you deliver will be put in a weird order when in reality you go up one side and head back down the other. The only way you have full control of your route is to switch it off and read the EDD sequence that you have run for 8 years or more.
Harry Manback
Robot Extraordinaire
You know it's bad when you're at 8:50 PCM and your on-car says: " Listen, ORION sucks. You know it, we know it. I'm asking you guys to consciously avoid 2 or 3 more "breaks" from it everyday. We're trying to get off this compliance call. If you could do this for us..."
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Sometimes Orion does a good job, sometimes it is totally retarded. Sounds like you had a retarded day.
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You can run all the stops on the same street without it being a break. Use it to make your job easier, and save your breaks for when Orion acts like a total maroon. That way you can run sensibly and still keep management off your case. It's here to stay, so we might as well make the best of it.
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JL 0513
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That's how I look at it. At first, I stubbornly ran it 100% to prove a point that it did stupid things. It resulted in some friend'd up days. Once I figured out the strategy and timing, I decided it's just best to work with it and use the breaks strategically.
It's true. Orion isn't going anywhere for a number of years, until the next big thing.
Stubborn drivers will just be shooting themselves in the foot if they go 100% blind. Unless you enjoy the excess overtime and resulting talks with management.
jumpman23
Oh Yeah
EVERY DAY IS A RETARDED DAY SON lol.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
My route had ORION installed 8 months ago.
It has never worked right or made any sense at all. I routinely beat it by anywhere from 10 to 30 miles. So now I do not even bother looking at it, I just switch to RDO and use common sense.
Only once in 8 months has my lack of compliance even been mentioned to me by management. I told him it didnt work so I dont use it. He said OK and never mentioned it again.
I find it rather interesting that drivers on other centers get hounded about compliance yet nothing is ever said to me.
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It has never worked right or made any sense at all. I routinely beat it by anywhere from 10 to 30 miles. So now I do not even bother looking at it, I just switch to RDO and use common sense.
Only once in 8 months has my lack of compliance even been mentioned to me by management. I told him it didnt work so I dont use it. He said OK and never mentioned it again.
I find it rather interesting that drivers on other centers get hounded about compliance yet nothing is ever said to me.
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The Blackadder
Are you not amused?
It is but the Orion guys have told us to do that, I wont and I don't think any other driver in my building should. Its just giving UPS a reason to fire you if they want to.
The Blackadder
Are you not amused?
This is what happens when you put people in charge who spend their life looking at a computer screen. It looks great on a computer screen but in the real world its a horror show.
I would love to have the CEO in my car for a day and have him explain to me how this is a smart thing, and more important a safe thing.
joeboodog
good people drink good beer
I would love to have the CEO ride with me so he could buy me lunch. I know if I told him his hair was on fire he wouldn't believe me unless his expert lackeys told him so. To him I am just another piece of equipment to be used and later replaced with a newer, trouble free model.
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