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Always carry a unregistered hand gun to throw down for self defense. If you don't, your just asking for trouble.
Package Driver shoots dog
- Thread starter neartom
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IWorkAsDirected
Outa browns on 04/30/09
And the puppy didn't deserve his?
wannabeups
Well-Known Member
The dude sounds like he has some serious issues.
Livin the Dream?
Disillusioned UPSer
My sources say that the UPS driver claims the dog drew first.
Livin the Dream?
Disillusioned UPSer
After his employ was rightfully terminated by one, I assume?
feederdriver06
former monkey slave
My comment was first geared toward the other members comment about a crazy meth-head.....and second for the dog issue.......that was why I ended with the goog luck comment because I don't think hes gonna get his job back..
feederdriver06
former monkey slave
words to live by most def!! . I too am from LAME-O New Jersey . When I was in packages I delivered in a good area and never carried. NJ pathetic gun laws and the illegality of a private citizen of carrying a handgun in this turd of a state has never stopped me from carrying any of my metal when I see fit.
govols019
You smell that?
Comparing the worth of a dog's life to that of a human being is just silly.
Re-Raise
Well-Known Member
Probably just another BS post from someone with too much time on their hands. Makes no sense on many levels.
What driver cares if a puppy chases his truck? My truck gets chased by dogs 50 times a day.
If I were carrying a weapon in violation of company policy and risking the loss of my job, it take more than a puppy biting my truck tires to make me discharge the firearm.
Who could really hit a running puppy with a handgun anyway? Didn't the little guy know you are supposed to zig-zag while running away? I am just saying....
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
I'm not condoning the actions of this driver and if the facts as related to us are true then he is in clear violation of both company policy and the law, and his termination ought to be upheld.
That being said, the assertion that "carrying a gun while wearing browns is a catastrophe waiting to happen" is nothing more than ignorant fear-mongering.
I have had a concealed handgun permit for over 12 years. On many occasions I have been armed---off the clock and off UPS property---after work while still wearing browns. No catastrophe has occured.
Contrary to popular liberal beliefs, the posession of a gun does not turn the bearer into a psychotic maniac. 200 million gun owners didnt kill anyone today.
UPS's "no weapons" policy is meant to protect the company from liability, NOT to protect its employees from harm. A murdered employee can be replaced with one who will be in progression for 3 years and do the same work for $10,000 a year less, so his/her death contitutes a net financial gain for the company. On the other hand, if that same employee succesfully uses a gun to save his/her own life, the family of the scumbag who tried to rob or murder him can sue UPS and hope to hit the jackpot against a company with deep pockets.
In the lawsuit-happy society we live in I cant really blame UPS for its no-weapons rule, although I wish that there was some way for those of us with carry permits to purchase our own liability insurance coverage that would shield UPS from litigation in case we had to defend ourselves.
In the lawsuit-happy society we live in I cant really blame UPS for its no-weapons rule, although I wish that there was some way for those of us with carry permits to purchase our own liability insurance coverage that would shield UPS from litigation in case we had to defend ourselves.
There must be literally thousands and thousands of times a UPS driver needed a gun to protect himself.
There must be literally thousands and thousands of times a UPS driver needed a gun to protect himself.
bubsdad
"Hang in there!"
This is not just a UPS policy. Federal regulations prohibit you from having a loaded, concealed weapon in a commercial vehicle.
Feederdrivermack
Active Member
Not too sure about this one Bub. Do you have a part or section number on this violation?
trplnkl
555
I'd much rather have one and never need it than to need one just once and not have it.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
There must be literally thousands and thousands of times a UPS driver needed a gun to protect himself.[/QUOTE]
I have yet to encounter one and will have to question my career choice if I were to ever encounter one.
I have yet to encounter one and will have to question my career choice if I were to ever encounter one.
Livin the Dream?
Disillusioned UPSer
Sober - I enjoy your posts - they are intelligent, thought provoking, and add value to the site. It is difficult for me to believe you did not understand what I wrote, so let me try again, in more detail-
Anyone going to work as a driver at UPS that is carrying a handgun while on the job is a catastrophe waiting to happen. I believe that strongly.
I dare say the problem with most people either wishing to carry or who do carry a handgun is the concept of progression - a handgun should leave its' holster only if someone will die / be extremely hurt if it is not. The problem, and I would say the majority of the time, is that handgun owners pull their gun out when they see people on the street, 20 feet away, that they don't like the looks of.
A good example is when I was back in High school. Fistfights. You had a beef, you beat each other up, one person won. Now adays people just point & shoot.
Read some of the posts in this thread. If they are not being sarcastic (and I hope they are) then some gun owner wannabes ARE fruitloops. They hurt the cause by being themselves.
I challenge anyone to even MAKE UP a scenario where a handgun is needed while driving a package car, let alone cite a real example.
And by the way, I have had a carry permit for 9 years - newest piece is a G36
