Bologna.
You couldn't have handled the job ten years prior to when you started.
Paper !!!!!!
- Thread starter Covemastah
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Bologna.
You couldn't have handled the job ten years prior to when you started.
1BROWNWRENCH
Amatuer Malthusian
Thinking is actively discouraged these days.
Harry Manback
Robot Extraordinaire
Exactly. I'm not currently equipped to do my job in the same fashion drivers did 30 years ago but, I feel like I could adapt. Especially given, there was less work on the car.
I understand the whole, "I drive an automatic with a low step, power steering/brakes and keyless entry" thing. Driving those old cars was a job by itself. And then, there was the other job of delivering/picking up packages.
I could do what "they" did. Could "they" do what I do?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Harry Manback
Robot Extraordinaire
Are you and I in agreement?!?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
On this issue? Yes.
Harry Manback
Robot Extraordinaire
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
I started in '88, was on paper for two or three years before we got the DIAD 1.
I would say that the job is easier today than it was in 1988. We aren't spending 12 hours a day fighting package cars that were intentionally designed to make our jobs harder and shorten our careers. The cars are bigger and faster. We have technology like cell phones and GPS and the ability to communicate instantly with the center in regards to dispatch issues. We have better contract language; when I started there was no such thing as 9.5 penalty pay or 8 hour requests. And the same technology that the company tries to use to harass us can actually be turned around and used against them if we are smart enough to know how. When I started, there was a WOR and it said you were 2 hours overallowed and you couldn't dispute it or argue with it. Now you can ask them to show you on Telematics where you are losing that two hours and they cant tell you because its BS and they know it.
I would say that the job is easier today than it was in 1988. We aren't spending 12 hours a day fighting package cars that were intentionally designed to make our jobs harder and shorten our careers. The cars are bigger and faster. We have technology like cell phones and GPS and the ability to communicate instantly with the center in regards to dispatch issues. We have better contract language; when I started there was no such thing as 9.5 penalty pay or 8 hour requests. And the same technology that the company tries to use to harass us can actually be turned around and used against them if we are smart enough to know how. When I started, there was a WOR and it said you were 2 hours overallowed and you couldn't dispute it or argue with it. Now you can ask them to show you on Telematics where you are losing that two hours and they cant tell you because its BS and they know it.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
I know for a fact that the driver who used to have my run would never be able to deliver 540 packages to 143 stops while driving 50 miles and picking up just over 200 pkgs from 28 P/U stops.
And be punched out and gone, with a full lunch and break, by 1815-1830.
And be punched out and gone, with a full lunch and break, by 1815-1830.
Harry Manback
Robot Extraordinaire
You don't punch out that late, do you?
I mean, you DO often brag about getting 8 hr guarantee pay.
Covemastah
Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
The cars all went out loaded up to the gills like today , you guys just have more technology!!
We had sups following us around DR audits and harassment as well !!
We had sups following us around DR audits and harassment as well !!
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
We don't start until 9:25.
Harry Manback
Robot Extraordinaire
Y'all (pardon my southern) must have some late trailers every day.
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
540 pieces? What size truck do you drive?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
Uh huh....unless at least 100 pieces are envelopes.....pictures or it's not true.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
You would have to be a fool to take pictures on company property.
You would also be a fool if you think I have to prove myself to a preloader.
