Part-Time Medical Coverage

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by iamoverit2, Oct 29, 2007.

  1. iamoverit2

    iamoverit2 New Member

    ".... effective January 1, 2008 health and welfare coverage for
    all part-time employees on the payroll at that time and those hired thereafter will be provided pursuant to the terms of an

    Employer sponsored nationwide health care plan, namely, the UPS
    National Health Plan for Part-Time Employees. (A copy of the Summary Plan Description will be privided.)

    Features of the plan will include a prescription card."

    Is anybody want to see The Plan Description BEFORE we vote for it?
  2. #1angelfan

    #1angelfan New Member

    i would like to see it , but i think it is kind of late.
  3. Mystakilla

    Mystakilla Who the *$#@ cares.

    Yeah they rushed this whole thing and by doing that, something just isnt right, that ought to throw up a flag for EVERYONE! :cursing:
  4. #1angelfan

    #1angelfan New Member

    can anyone explain this? i am going to call my local and try to get them to explain this.
  5. JustPartTime

    JustPartTime New Member

    Yeah, I'd like to know. Include that in with all my other questions. Like the retirement changing to 25 years AND age 55 instead of 25 and out any age.....$200 a month for insurance......

    This contract is not looking so good to me.
  6. gandydancer

    gandydancer New Member

    You didn't mention the part about superseding any provisions that part time benefits be the equal of full-time benefits. So, the only guarantee of benefits (other than the existance of a prescription card) is the fiduciary responsibility of the company to spend the H&W capitation contributed on behalf of each part time employee responsibly? Where is that amount specified in the contract and how does it compare with the number(s) in the last contract?
  7. browned out

    browned out Active Member

    Very scary language indeed. Does the prescription card come with a $10 co pay? Someone needs to contact the NLRB, Hard Copy or lawyer

    This deception or lack of information is unacceptable.
  8. people around here all havent even got the ballots. I just found out from our shop stewart that the union is screwing the part timers----on the teamster mailer the health plan looked almost identical to what we already have ---what is left out and hidden somewhere is that all part timers will have to pay $1000 deductible for EACH person on their plan in network and out of network is 3000 pp per year. is that legal if people arent all getting their ballots and we have to get the vote in by the 9th?? and how come nobody is being told about the deductable ...i vote HELL NO!!!
  9. browned out

    browned out Active Member

    Maybe therels a $1000 dollar deductable per family member no vision no dental in addition to a co pay on prescription card.

  10. #1angelfan

    #1angelfan New Member

    i talked to my local, and he said our insurance will not change one bit. it does say that in our supplement. it might be different for everybody though. you might want to read your supplement or call your local guys. hopefully they will tell you the truth.
  11. Damok

    Damok Member

    We also got some PT specific stuff in the snail mail here about this... didn't see anything that got worse. Angel is right though, check your supplemental.
  12. The info i received in the mail compared "in-network" benefits with "out-of-network" benefits.

    How do I know if I'm in or out of network?
  13. Damok

    Damok Member

    It's not you that's in or out of network it's the Doctor or specialist or whatever that is or isn't. Get your hands on a list of those - I think it comes in a booklet. I actually have to get a new one myself.

    Anyone know if this is done through HR or not?
  14. Who does it list as a provider (healthcare)? this interests me. I know it doesn't affect our local (least thats what they told our hourlies). We currently get Blue Cross or Harvard Pilgrim I believe (may have been fallon) for the union and Aetna, Cigna and Blue Cross for management in our area.

    I am curious about this as well as my employees have heard little to nothing about this when I mentioned it.
  15. #1angelfan

    #1angelfan New Member

    damok, you need to call whoever you covered by, i have blue cross, blue shield, so i call them if i need a new book, or they can also give you names over the phone.
  16. TheVoice

    TheVoice United Prole. Socialist

    In all fairness brother, I am also voting No, and have been concerned about this issue straight out the gate, but I wanted to correct you on the date thing, the votes have to be in by the 16th at 10 am eastern time, the 9th deadline is for requesting a new ballot if you didn’t receive the first one…either way you look at it, not enough time, a snow-job big time.

    The Voice
  17. Cezanne

    Cezanne New Member

    I just hope that I do not have to say "I told you so" for the next five years if this contract passes. Really is anybody listening out there, let alone doing any research about the loopholes present with this new pension lanuage and health and welfare lanuage. :cursing:
  18. Braveheart

    Braveheart New Member

    I think the part timers are getting the shaft!

    12 Month wait for benefits

    18 Month wait for your spouse and kids to get benefits

    Starting wage still stuck in stone age at $8.50

    Starting pay rate for Air Drivers still FROZEN IN STONE AGE

    Air progression pay rates still frozen with NO WAGE IMPROVEMENTS

    ZERO NEW 22.3 FULL TIME JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    TCD must get Unattainable 200 reports for promotion to full time

    ZERO improvements to stop seniority and harassment violations

    Company gets to pass over TCD's and use golf cart helpers at Peak instead

    NO catch up raises!

    Split raises at 20 hours and .35 cents is only a $7 a week raise WOW

    Only full time drivers can get on 9.5 list!!!!!Let the abuse begin!!!!!!!

    Still no sick days for 3 years!!!!!

    No paid holidays for your 1st year!!!Can you feel the love??????

    3 and 1/2 gone if you bust it out and go home early

    Why would any part timer vote yes??????????????????

    Vote no and tell all the part timers to vote no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  19. Damok

    Damok Member

    Gotcha, thanks much :)
  20. ogrelord

    ogrelord Ground Down

    there going to do away with the 3.5 hours? please tell me this is a bad joke.