Payroll Tax Cut

Meat

Well-Known Member
Would this be a sound fiscal measure, or Trumpian legislation with extra insanity sauce?

As always, your thoughts are GREATLY appreciated.
 

DriverNerd

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Nothing the government is doing is fiscally responsible. They're spending trillions left and right - I'm not saying they shouldn't be spending a lot of money now to prop up the economy (I'm not nearly intelligent enough about that to know). Trump wants to pad people's pockets as much as possible right now and until November to court votes (not a bad idea for his reelection).

And I know that this isn't extra spending, but loss of income, but it has the same affect.
 
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DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
As a "sound fiscal measure", I would say paying people more on unemployment than they make when they're working, is a policy so brilliant only a Democrat could have come up with it.
 

Meat

Well-Known Member
I said for every working person
I'm sure the unemployed will get some extra enhance unemployment.
Even though I think the $600 a week is way too much

They are projecting the SSA trust to start operating at a reduced capacity in as little as nine years (I concede I haven’t reviewed the math on such claims). Considering that approximately half of the population doesn’t save for retirement, I’m not certain such a tax cut is going to help those most in need in the long run.

Furthermore, deferring the collection of taxes, and then ultimately granting clemency on said taxes may not be legislatively feasible (especially the latter part of the equation).
 
They are projecting the SSA trust to start operating at a reduced capacity in as little as nine years (I concede I haven’t reviewed the math on such claims). Considering that approximately half of the population doesn’t save for retirement, I’m not certain such a tax cut is going to help those most in need in the long run.

Furthermore, deferring the collection of taxes, and then ultimately granting clemency on said taxes may not be legislatively feasible (especially the latter part of the equation).
Obama did a reduction in social security tax.

And yes I'm not a fan of adding to the social security defecit.
 

Meat

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As a "sound fiscal measure", I would say paying people more on unemployment than they make when they're working, is a policy so brilliant only a Democrat could have come up with it.

Pretty sure the CARES act passed with bi-partisan support, and Trump has not stated the enhanced amount of $600 per week will be decreased if he takes executive action to extend the benefit.
 

Meat

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Obama did a reduction in social security tax.

And yes I'm not a fan of adding to the social security defecit.

The funds were replaced by general revenue funds when Obama cut payroll taxes. so it didn’t affect the trust. As far as I know, there are no such funds to offset the cut that Trump is proposing (let me know if I’m incorrect).
 
The funds were replaced by general revenue funds when Obama cut payroll taxes. so it didn’t affect the trust. As far as I know, there are no such funds to offset the cut that Trump is proposing (let me know if I’m incorrect).
This country is so far in debt , they robbed Peter to pay Paul for far too long.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
Pretty sure the CARES act passed with bi-partisan support, and Trump has not stated the enhanced amount of $600 per week will be decreased if he takes executive action to extend the benefit.
Okay.
You did not comment on my opinion that it is fiscally unsound, so I guess you agree and support ending the extra unemployment money.

Carry on.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
That would immediately give every working person extra spending cash regardless of what income tax bracket you're in.
I operate as a small business. I would immediately save approximately $7500 a month.

Pay close attention to who really is cashing in.
Well, first place ... it is not a payroll tax cut in my understanding.
The Prez cannot do that ... only Congress.
It is a deferral of tax collection ... come next April, all taxes not collected will be due.
 

Meat

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I operate as a small business. I would immediately save approximately $7500 a month.

Pay close attention to who really is cashing in.

bbsam, let me ask you this: If there was an executive order that deferred the payroll tax, and the order provided vague details about granting clemency at a later date, would you continue to withhold the taxes? It would be kind of foolish not to in my opinion.
 
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